[Veritas-bu] Choice of platform for Master Server

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Our storage group is equal parts NT/unix admins, and we chose to go with a Sun 
based enterprise. We chose a 280r for the master server and a V880 for the 
media server, mainly due to the fibre attached STK9840b drives. I love the new 
sunfire series for ease of maintenence and processor power...

Harry S.
Atlanta
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Dwyer [mailto:dfdwyer AT tecoenergy DOT com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 2:52 PM
To: Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu; mried AT MIT DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Choice of platform for Master Server


Mark,

If your salesmen are wearing plaid polyester jackets I'd be careful. Talk to a 
Veritas engineer instead.

You raise a valid question. Granted building it on an NT platform is definitely 
less expensive but the notion that it is better supported is nonsense. The 
Veritas folks support both platforms pretty well, I think, so I believe your 
manager is operating on a personal bias coupled with a little sales mumbo-jumbo.

>From the trenches: I too was confronted with which platform and my decision 
>was based mostly on the platform I felt the most comfortable with since I 
>would be administering the environment. Ask any of us who use it regularly, 
>NetBackup is not intuitively obvious to the casual observer. It takes a little 
>bit of brains and time to understand it and use it properly. I'd hate to have 
>to learn that from scratch (assuming you know little to nothing about NBU) as 
>well as tackle learning a new operating platform. I think my decision to "Go 
>with what you know" was in my best interests as the support guy and definitely 
>in the best interests of my customers who rely on me to have their data in a 
>safe place without fail or question.

BTW ... I understand NBU well on either platform but chose UNIX on a Sun server 
as my NBU Master/Media mainly because of the reliability factor. Face it ... NT 
hold a certain notoriety for being temperamental.

My personal opinions and I'm responsible for them.

Regards,
Dennis

Quote: "Time is not a test of the truth"
Translation: Just because you've always done it that way, doesn't make it right

Dennis F. Dwyer
Manager, Systems Software
Tampa Electric Company

(813) 225-5181  - Voice
(813) 275-3599  - FAX

Visit our corporate website at www.tecoenergy.com

>>> Mark Riedesel <mried AT MIT DOT EDU> 09/25/2002 2:15:41 PM >>>
We are about to purchase Vertias NetBackup DataCenter for our mix of 
Solaris, Windows and Linux
servers and our Oracle databases.  Our IT director favors Windows for
the master server since it is less expensive and he was told it is the 
better choice
since the Windows version is better supported and has more features.

However, I am going to be responsible for administering this system and 
while I have many
years experience with Unix administration, I have only user-level 
experience with
Windows.  Would I be well-advised to advocate using a Solaris master 
server instead,
or is Windows really the better choice?  We have only the Dell and 
Veritas salesmen's advice to
go on at this point.

Thanks,

Mark

Mark Riedesel
Systems Manager/DBA
Sloan School of Management
MIT
mried AT mit DOT edu 

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Our storage group is equal parts NT/unix admins, and =
we chose to go with a Sun based enterprise. We chose a 280r for the =
master server and a V880 for the media server, mainly due to the fibre =
attached STK9840b drives. I love the new sunfire series for ease of =
maintenence and processor power...</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Harry S.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Atlanta</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Dennis Dwyer [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:dfdwyer AT tecoenergy DOT com">mailto:dfdwyer AT tecoenergy DOT 
com</A>=
]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 2:52 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu; =
mried AT MIT DOT EDU</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Choice of platform for =
Master Server</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Mark,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>If your salesmen are wearing plaid polyester jackets =
I'd be careful. Talk to a Veritas engineer instead.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>You raise a valid question. Granted building it on an =
NT platform is definitely less expensive but the notion that it is =
better supported is nonsense. The Veritas folks support both platforms =
pretty well, I think, so I believe your manager is operating on a =
personal bias coupled with a little sales mumbo-jumbo.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>From the trenches: I too was confronted with which =
platform and my decision was based mostly on the platform I felt the =
most comfortable with since I would be administering the environment. =
Ask any of us who use it regularly, NetBackup is not intuitively =
obvious to the casual observer. It takes a little bit of brains and =
time to understand it and use it properly. I'd hate to have to learn =
that from scratch (assuming you know little to nothing about NBU) as =
well as tackle learning a new operating platform. I think my decision =
to &quot;Go with what you know&quot; was in my best interests as the =
support guy and definitely in the best interests of my customers who =
rely on me to have their data in a safe place without fail or =
question.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>BTW ... I understand NBU well on either platform but =
chose UNIX on a Sun server as my NBU Master/Media mainly because of the =
reliability factor. Face it ... NT hold a certain notoriety for being =
temperamental.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>My personal opinions and I'm responsible for =
them.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Regards,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dennis</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Quote: &quot;Time is not a test of the =
truth&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Translation: Just because you've always done it that =
way, doesn't make it right</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dennis F. Dwyer</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Manager, Systems Software</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Tampa Electric Company</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>(813) 225-5181&nbsp; - Voice</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>(813) 275-3599&nbsp; - FAX</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Visit our corporate website at =
www.tecoenergy.com</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt;&gt; Mark Riedesel &lt;mried AT MIT DOT EDU&gt; =
09/25/2002 2:15:41 PM &gt;&gt;&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>We are about to purchase Vertias NetBackup =
DataCenter for our mix of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Solaris, Windows and Linux</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>servers and our Oracle databases.&nbsp; Our IT =
director favors Windows for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the master server since it is less expensive and he =
was told it is the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>better choice</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>since the Windows version is better supported and =
has more features.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>However, I am going to be responsible for =
administering this system and </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>while I have many</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>years experience with Unix administration, I have =
only user-level </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>experience with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Windows.&nbsp; Would I be well-advised to advocate =
using a Solaris master </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>server instead,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>or is Windows really the better choice?&nbsp; We =
have only the Dell and </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Veritas salesmen's advice to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>go on at this point.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Mark</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Mark Riedesel</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Systems Manager/DBA</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sloan School of Management</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>MIT</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>mried AT mit DOT edu </FONT>
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