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I understand what you're saying about the SAP problem, but I don't agree
with your characterization of everything else.
1. I LOVE the new Java Admin GUI on UNIX.
It's all in one GUI, much simpler to understand than the previous
GUIs, etc.
It's a little slow when displaying it to a remote X session, but
there's no reason to do that.
You have two choices:
A) Install the Java console on the remote machine if it's Unix/Linux.
B) Install the admin console if it's Windows. I prefer this over the
Java console, only for a few pieces of functionality.
2. As to remote admin from a Windows box, you can use enhanced
authentication/authorization instead of the bp.conf method.
3. I have seen massive improvement in search capabiity even in small
image catalogs. I say upgrade!
4. I've seen the "bad job info." It's a minor asthetical problem, not
data corruption. I'm sure they'll fix it soon.
(What I've seen is one job reported twice, for example.)
-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Paul
Winkeler
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 5:59 AM
To: Hampus Lind
Cc: Veritas maillista
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] upgrade 3.4.1 to 4.5 (warning about SAP agent
compatibility)
Hampus
We just went through such an upgrade at a client site and here is a
quick summary of our experience:
1) Actual upgrade is smooth enough (don't forget to immediately apply
the current Service Pack, number 1)
2) Try and leave clients alone as they will work fine and you'll have a
harder time trouble shooting if you change everything all at once.
3) If you use the SAP agent anywhere; those machines clients and their
agents MUST be upgraded to 4.5 as the 3.4 SAP agent will NOT work with a
4.5 master!
4) The Unix based Java Administrative GUI sucks wind. Badly. Not only
that but it its activity monitor reports plain old wrong job status
information. As does the detail behind bpdbjobs. We haven't run with
the Windows administrative console much yet because it requires that
these PCs be listed as servers in the bp.conf file. All NBU systems at
this site sit on a private network and we cannot route to/from it to
where the adminstrative PCs are located. (Stupid design on Veritas'
behalf if you ask me...)
5) Unless your image catalog is huge, don't bother converting it. Just
let the old images stay in ascii format.
6) The new binary job database, although it content is badly hosed, is
reported on nice and fast, FWIW.
If the client hadn't needed storage unit grouping so storage units could
be prioritized we would never have upgraded.
Just my $.02
-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Hampus Lind
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 4:14 AM
To: Veritas maillista
Subject: [Veritas-bu] upgrade 3.4.1 to 4.5
Hi.
I`am about to carry out a upgrade from Netbackup DataCenter 3.4.1 to
4.5.
Has any one had problem with this? Or maybe some good pointers?
We have Netbackup DataCenter 3.4.1 master and media server in the same
hp-ux 11.00 server. Out clients are everything from NetWare, Windows,
solaris, hpux to informix database agents.
Tanks in advance
Hampus
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<DIV><SPAN class=061214921-20092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
understand what you're saying about the SAP problem, but I don't agree with
your
characterization of everything else.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=061214921-20092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=061214921-20092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>1. I
LOVE the new Java Admin GUI on UNIX. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=061214921-20092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> It's all in one GUI, much simpler to
understand than the previous GUIs, etc. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=061214921-20092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> It's a little slow when displaying it to a remote X
session, but there's no reason to do that. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=061214921-20092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> You have two choices:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=061214921-20092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> A) Install the Java console on the remote machine if it's
Unix/Linux.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=061214921-20092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> B) Install the admin console if it's Windows. I
prefer this over the Java console, only for a few pieces of
functionality.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=061214921-20092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>2. As
to remote admin from a Windows box, you can use enhanced
authentication/authorization instead of the bp.conf method.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=061214921-20092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>3. I
have seen massive improvement in search capabiity even in small image
catalogs. I say upgrade!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=061214921-20092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>4.
I've seen the "bad job info." It's a minor asthetical problem,
not data corruption. I'm sure they'll fix it
soon.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=061214921-20092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> (What I've seen is one job reported twice, for
example.)</FONT> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=061214921-20092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Paul
Winkeler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 20, 2002 5:59 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Hampus Lind<BR><B>Cc:</B> Veritas maillista<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[Veritas-bu] upgrade 3.4.1 to 4.5 (warning about SAP agent
compatibility)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=650514612-20092002>Hampus</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=650514612-20092002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=650514612-20092002>We
just went through such an upgrade at a client site and here is a quick
summary
of our experience:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=650514612-20092002>1)
Actual upgrade is smooth enough (don't forget to immediately apply the
current
Service Pack, number 1)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=650514612-20092002>2)
Try and leave clients alone as they will work fine and you'll have a harder
time trouble shooting if you change everything all at
once.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=650514612-20092002>3)
<STRONG>If you use the SAP agent anywhere; those machines clients and their
agents MUST be upgraded to 4.5 as the 3.4 SAP agent will NOT work with a 4.5
master!</STRONG></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=650514612-20092002>4)
The Unix based Java Administrative GUI sucks wind. Badly. Not
only
that but it its activity monitor reports plain old wrong job status
information. As does the detail behind bpdbjobs. We haven't run
with the Windows administrative console much yet because it requires that
these PCs be listed as servers in the bp.conf file. All NBU systems at
this site sit on a private network and we cannot route to/from it to where
the
adminstrative PCs are located. (Stupid design on Veritas' behalf if you
ask me...)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=650514612-20092002>5)
Unless your image catalog is huge, don't bother converting it. Just let
the old images stay in ascii format.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=650514612-20092002>6)
The new binary job database, although it content is badly hosed, is reported
on nice and fast, FWIW.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=650514612-20092002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=650514612-20092002>If
the client hadn't needed storage unit grouping so storage units could be
prioritized we would never have upgraded.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=650514612-20092002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=650514612-20092002>Just
my $.02</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>Hampus
Lind<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 20, 2002 4:14 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Veritas maillista<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Veritas-bu] upgrade 3.4.1 to
4.5<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I`am about to carry out a upgrade
from Netbackup DataCenter 3.4.1 to 4.5.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Has any one had problem with
this? Or
maybe some good pointers? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We have Netbackup DataCenter 3.4.1 master and
media server in the same hp-ux 11.00 server. Out clients are everything
from
NetWare, Windows, solaris, hpux to informix database agents.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tanks in advance</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Hampus</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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