I have used Backup Exec 8.0.5 (I think) to back up a mixed environment of
Novel 4, SCO OpenServer 5.0.4 and AIX 4.2.  While the UNIX agent works,
there is one big drawback.  It can only do full backups.

We ended up moving from Backup Exec to NetBackup when our backups got to
the point where the DLT tape drives where running all day and the hardware
started failing.  Backup Exec works well for smaller environments (In our
case 10 assorted servers with 100 GB of data), but it is not as scalable as
NetBackup.

Richard Mickle
UNIX Systems and Storage Administrator
Moore Response Marketing Services
E-Mail:     rmickle AT rms.moore DOT com
Phone:    920-339-1695
Fax:         920-339-1231


-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec query
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:07:21 -0400
From: "Labonte, L R (Leo), SOLIT" <llabonte AT att DOT com>
To: "Alvarez, Martin BGI SDC" <Martin.Alvarez AT barclaysglobal DOT com>,
   "Ballowe, Charles" <CBallowe AT usg DOT com>,
   "Jeffrey Dykzeul" <Jeffrey_Dykzeul AT raytheon DOT com>,
   <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>

Backup Exec is compatible with the native Microsoft tape format,
while NetBackup uses tar.  Believe Backup Exec is still cheaper.
We back up an enterprise of 50+ NT 4/Windows 2000 servers to a
STK library with 4 DLT tape drives.  Local Microsoft administrators
prefer the Backup Exec GUI.  I vote to continue with Backup Exec.

Leo R. Labonte
AT&T
(732) 420-6080
llabonte AT att DOT com


-----Original Message-----
From: Alvarez, Martin BGI SDC [mailto:Martin.Alvarez AT barclaysglobal DOT com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 5:44 PM
To: 'Ballowe, Charles'; 'Jeffrey Dykzeul';
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec query


My input is that BE is NOT an enterprise level product like NBU.  It is
meant for small workgroup type office settings that focus more on
workstations, e-mail and small MS data servers.  I have heard that BE does
backup the UNIX platform, but I have never heard anyone actually say they
are doing it.

Our Windows server team also uses BE for all Exchange and most other app
and
data servers, but this is exclusive to their environment and we would not
even consider using them to back up our UNIX environment.  The funny thing
is that NBU 4.5 is so close to BE, and uses most of the same technologies,
that I have been trying to convince them move to the one product.  However,
The cost argument (licensing, deployment etc..) always wins even though
they
know it would be much easier to manage and use.

JMO

~Martin
Barclays Global Investors



-----Original Message-----
From: Ballowe, Charles [mailto:CBallowe AT usg DOT com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:50 AM
To: 'Jeffrey Dykzeul'; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec query


BackupExec is what the windows guys here use and have been using for
years. I believe we're transitioning to NBU for a new server environment
that is being built. Our first use of NBU was for a Unix based Oracle
Applications setup.

>From what I can tell of BackupExec, it's more GUI driven, and has less
(read: no) power from the command line. Everything is handled from the
server - I don't think client directed restores are possible. It works
fine for them, but I'm not sure I'd want it in a large multi-platform
environment. (We do have a couple of directories on a Linux and a Solaris
machine backed up by it, I have yet to see an attempted restore of that
data though.)

-charlie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey Dykzeul [mailto:Jeffrey_Dykzeul AT Raytheon DOT com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 12:43 PM
> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec query
>
>
> Some of my Windows colleagues are testing BackupExec with various tape
> drives and libraries to see if it meets their needs. Has
> anyone on this
> list performed a similar study and might be willing to share their
> findings? Anybody have any from-the-hip comments about using
> BackupExec?
>
>
> Jeff Dykzeul
> Raytheon
> El Segundo CA USA
>