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Couple of questions:
* Is this available for others to have or use??
* Will this script, or another like it, work with NBU 4.5??
Just curious to see if they "locked down" NBU so that customized scripts
would be limited to what they can do as we have a few customized scripts
running and if bpvault is now license key, will they try and force you to
use theirs.
Martin
-----Original Message-----
From: Donaldson, Mark [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experiences DOT com]
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:51 AM
To: 'Francis Alexander'; Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] bpVault Alternatives?
Well - I wrote my vaulting software myself. Here's a note I posted to the
Veritas Newsgroup...
------------------
Well, this can be really a very large answer. There's two basic ways to do
this, though:
1. Netbackup Vault - it's a product set that does just what you're talking
about. It's an add-on for v3.4 and included but disabled in v4.5. Pay $$
to Veritas to make it work via a license key.
2. Write it yourself. It turns out to be not to hard if you're a good
scripter and if you think it out beforehand. I've written a couple of
modules:
a. Removable tape identification - which tapes to you want to remove?
I've got a ruleset like this: 1-week since last written AND in library AND
(full OR frozen OR suspended). It's written around vmquery output. The
1-week rule keeps the mostly-likely-to-be-requested tapes in the library so
I don't have to fetch removed ones too much.
b. Injectable tape identificiation - which tapes are empty and available
to be inserted into the library. My rules are: empty AND scratch-pool AND
not-in-library AND not-offsite AND not-frozen AND not-suspended. This one
is also built around vmquery output.
c. Define different volume groups for in-library and out-of-library to
help with these identificiations.
d. Offsite processing - scripts which I run to track tapes that leave the
building to our offsite storage. There's a check-in/-out pair of scripts
that alter the entries in the volume database that actually track this
stuff. Look at vmchange -new_v, -offsent, -offreturn, & -offloc.
e. If you're storing tapes out of the library, it's possible that there
will be a restore request that wants a tape not in the library. Unless you
keep the GUI up all the time, you'll not know. I have a cron-based script
that wakes up every 10 minutes and uses the "vmoprcmd -d pr" & "vmoprcmd -d
ds" command to watch for pending requests and pages when one comes in and
also pages when it's done with the tape.
f. Rotation script - write a job for the ops staff, either cron or
manually run - that uses the ident removable & ident insertable routines
above to create a report. My version also auto-ejects the tapes to the
mailslot for removal, then pages to have them swapped with insertable
scripts. There's another script that injects tapes from the mailslot back
into the library. vmchange can be used to eject tapes, vmupdate to inject
them. I've marked a "water-line" of scratch tapes that I try to keep in the
machine. I never
rotate out more tapes that what I need to keep enough spares.
There's a lot here - there probably should be more. E-mail or post if you
want more...
-Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Francis Alexander [ mailto:fa_bu_opr AT hotmail DOT com
<mailto:fa_bu_opr AT hotmail DOT com> ]
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:02 AM
To: Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] bpVault Alternatives?
HI ALL:
Being brand new to this list, I'm probably already asking a question that
has been answered, though the archive search haven't produced anything yet.
As my subject eludes, does anyone know of a third party company that has an
alternative to bpVault? We just don't want to spend the money if there is a
good alternative out there and I have been tasked with finding it.
TIA
I await your replies.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=660431017-20052002>Couple
of questions:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<UL>
<LI><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=660431017-20052002>Is
this available for others to have or use??</SPAN></FONT></LI>
<LI><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=660431017-20052002>Will
this script, or another like it, work with NBU
4.5??</SPAN></FONT></LI></UL>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=660431017-20052002>Just
curious to see if they "locked down" NBU so that customized scripts would be
limited to what they can do as we have a few customized scripts running and if
bpvault is now license key, will they try and force you to use
theirs.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=660431017-20052002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=660431017-20052002></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2><SPAN class=660431017-20052002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=660431017-20052002>Martin</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=660431017-20052002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Donaldson, Mark
[mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experiences DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May
20, 2002
9:51 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Francis Alexander';
Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu]
bpVault
Alternatives?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>Well - I wrote my vaulting software myself. Here's a
note I posted to the Veritas Newsgroup...</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>------------------</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Well, this can be
really a very large answer. There's two basic ways to do</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>this, though:</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>1. Netbackup Vault - it's a product set that does just what
you're talking about. It's an add-on for v3.4 and included but disabled
in v4.5. Pay $$ to Veritas to make it work via a license key.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>2. Write it yourself. It turns out to be not to hard if
you're a good scripter and if you think it out beforehand. I've written
a couple of modules:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2> a. Removable tape identification - which tapes to you
want to remove? </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>I've got a ruleset like this: 1-week
since last written AND in library AND (full OR frozen OR suspended). It's
written around vmquery output. The 1-week rule keeps the
mostly-likely-to-be-requested tapes in the library so I don't have to fetch
removed ones too much.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2> b. Injectable tape identificiation - which tapes are
empty and available to be inserted into the library. My rules are:
empty
AND scratch-pool AND not-in-library AND not-offsite AND not-frozen AND
not-suspended. This one is also built around vmquery output.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2> c. Define different volume groups for in-library and
out-of-library to help with these identificiations.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2> d. Offsite processing - scripts which I run to track
tapes that leave the building to our offsite storage. There's a
check-in/-out pair of scripts that alter the entries in the volume database
that actually track this stuff. Look at vmchange -new_v, -offsent,
-offreturn, & -offloc.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2> e. If you're storing tapes out of the library, it's
possible that there will be a restore request that wants a tape not in the
library. Unless you keep the GUI up all the time, you'll not
know.
I have a cron-based script that wakes up every 10 minutes and uses the
"vmoprcmd -d pr" & "vmoprcmd -d ds" command to watch for pending requests
and pages when one comes in and also pages when it's done with the
tape.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2> f. Rotation script - write a job for the ops staff,
either cron or manually run - that uses the ident removable & ident
insertable routines above to create a report. My version also
auto-ejects the tapes to the mailslot for removal, then pages to have them
swapped with insertable scripts. There's another script that injects
tapes from the mailslot back into the library. vmchange can be used to
eject tapes, vmupdate to inject them. I've marked a "water-line" of
scratch tapes that I try to keep in the machine. I never</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>rotate out more tapes that what I need to keep enough
spares.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>There's a lot here - there probably should be more.
E-mail or post if you want more...</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>-Mark</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From:
Francis Alexander [<A
href="mailto:fa_bu_opr AT hotmail DOT com">mailto:fa_bu_opr AT hotmail DOT
com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:02 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>To: Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>Subject:
[Veritas-bu] bpVault Alternatives?</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>HI ALL:</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Being brand new to this list, I'm probably already asking a
question that </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>has been answered, though the archive
search haven't produced anything yet.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>As my subject eludes, does anyone know of a third party
company that has an </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>alternative to bpVault? We
just don't want to spend the money if there is a </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>good
alternative out there and I have been tasked with finding it.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>TIA</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>I await your replies.</FONT>
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