[Veritas-bu] Full vs Incremental Backup
2002-04-29 12:29:12
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Ahh! Archive bit. I was speaking to unix clients but there may be
difference between NT clients and Unix clients. (Unix has no archive
bit...).
-Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Kennedy [mailto:jlkennedy AT amcc DOT com]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Donaldson Mark
Cc: 'David A. Chapa'; Veritasbu (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Full vs Incremental Backup
Yes, please let us know. Someone else asked me who it was I got this
info from. After going over my notes it turns out it wasn't Veritas
direct but a VAR SE. He said it was a function of the OS as to atime
and archive bit settings.
~JK
> "Donaldson, Mark" wrote:
>
> I'm running a test now - I'll check back with results.
> -Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David A. Chapa [mailto:david AT xbpadm-commands DOT com]
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:02 AM
> To: Jeff Kennedy; Donaldson Mark
> Cc: Veritasbu (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Full vs Incremental Backup
>
> Who did you confirm it with at Veritas? I'd like to talk with
> them...since
> its always been same class only. the current architecture of the
> product
> does not function that way...unless 4.5 has some fancy new feature.
>
> Hey, I may be dead wrong too...I'll track down one of the NBU
> developers
> here at the show and ask them.
>
> David
>
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> David A. Chapa
> NetBackup Consultant
> DataStaff, Inc.
> http://www.consulting.datastaff.com
> 847 413 1144
> ---------------------------------------
> NBU-LSERV AT datastaff DOT com - Adv. Scripting
> http://www.xbpadm-commands.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Jeff
> Kennedy
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 5:42 PM
> To: Donaldson Mark
> Cc: Veritasbu (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Full vs Incremental Backup
>
> I got an answer from Douglas Ritschel regarding this and the answer is
>
> yes, incrementals are schedule and class independent. Any incremental
>
> (regardless of class or schedule) is based on the last full
> (regardless
> of class or schedule). I confirmed this with Veritas.
>
> Be careful with those Offsite pools..... :-[
>
> ~JK
>
> "Donaldson, Mark" wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I'm testing some new stuff, so I'm doing a full backup to a test
> pool,
> > then deleting the images later.
> >
> > It just occurred to me: Is the incremental backup of a server the
> > changed files as compared to the most recent full backup within the
> > same class or any class.
> >
> > -Mark
>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ahh! Archive bit. I was speaking to unix =
clients but there may be difference between NT clients and Unix =
clients. (Unix has no archive bit...).</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-Mark</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Jeff Kennedy [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:jlkennedy AT amcc DOT com">mailto:jlkennedy AT amcc DOT
com</A>]</FONT>=
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:26 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Donaldson Mark</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: 'David A. Chapa'; Veritasbu (E-mail)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Full vs Incremental =
Backup</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Yes, please let us know. Someone else asked me =
who it was I got this</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>info from. After going over my notes it turns =
out it wasn't Veritas</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>direct but a VAR SE. He said it was a function =
of the OS as to atime</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>and archive bit settings.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>~JK</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> "Donaldson, Mark" wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> I'm running a test now - I'll check back with =
results.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> -Mark</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> From: David A. Chapa [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:david AT xbpadm-commands DOT com">mailto:[email protected]=
om</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:02 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> To: Jeff Kennedy; Donaldson Mark</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Cc: Veritasbu (E-mail)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Full vs Incremental =
Backup</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Who did you confirm it with at Veritas? =
I'd like to talk with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> them...since</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> its always been same class only. the =
current architecture of the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> product</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> does not function that way...unless 4.5 has =
some fancy new feature.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Hey, I may be dead wrong too...I'll track down =
one of the NBU</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> developers</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> here at the show and ask them.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> David</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> =
<><><><><><><><><>=
<><><><><><><><><>=
<><></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> David A. Chapa</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> NetBackup Consultant</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> DataStaff, Inc.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> <A HREF=3D"http://www.consulting.datastaff.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.consulting.datastaff.com</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> 847 413 1144</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> ---------------------------------------</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> NBU-LSERV AT datastaff DOT com - Adv. Scripting</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> <A HREF=3D"http://www.xbpadm-commands.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.xbpadm-commands.com</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> From: =
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">mailto:veritas-b=
u-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</A>]On Behalf Of Jeff</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Kennedy</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 5:42 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> To: Donaldson Mark</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Cc: Veritasbu (E-mail)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Full vs Incremental =
Backup</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> I got an answer from Douglas Ritschel regarding =
this and the answer is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> yes, incrementals are schedule and class =
independent. Any incremental</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> (regardless of class or schedule) is based on =
the last full</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> (regardless</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> of class or schedule). I confirmed this =
with Veritas.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Be careful with those Offsite pools..... =
:-[</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> ~JK</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> "Donaldson, Mark" wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > I'm testing some new stuff, so I'm doing a =
full backup to a test</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> pool,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > then deleting the images later.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > It just occurred to me: Is the incremental =
backup of a server the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > changed files as compared to the most =
recent full backup within the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > same class or any class.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > -Mark</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Jeff Kennedy</FONT>
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