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[Veritas-bu] NBU Server Rebuild

2002-02-21 17:20:19
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU Server Rebuild
From: cgbrewer AT RMBSC DOT COM (Chris Brewer)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:20:19 -0700
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Thanks so much. A few questions/comments if I may(?):
 
1. When you speak of dumping from tape, do you mean just catalogs? That's
what I'd like to do (I think)... If that's what I do, will all my
classes/schedules move over? If not, is there a way to pull these over too
(I cringe at the thought of recreating them, but upfront work beats daily
brow-beating!)? Check my logic here: Build out and bring up the new server
with the IP/hostname of the original server; rename/re-ip the old server
making sure no NetBackup services start at reboot; install Veritas NBU w/the
Jumbo 2 patch; copy the catalogs over the network (C:\Program
Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\db, C:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\database, and
C:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\var); test; drink beer if successful,
else drink Mountain Dew.
 
2. Here's what I think the culprit may be: The following patches were
installed in this order:
    * NB_341_1 (ran twice, oddly enough!)
    * NB_341_PO858
    * NB_341_2
    * NB_341_PO836
    * NB_341_PO896
    * NB_341_1 (!! Aha! Ran twice again!)
    * NB_341_PO858 (!! again)
    * NB_341_2 (!! again)
    * NB_341_1 (!! again)
    * NB_341_PO858 (!! again)
    * NB_341_2 (!! again)
    * NB_341_PO836 (!! again)
    * NB_341_PO896 (!! again)
Holy moly! That smells like trouble, eh? Further support for rebuilding, I'd
say... Anyone?
 
3. What do you recommend as far as installing Veritas patches (ie, all
patches as they're released, only jumbo patches, or what...)
 
4. Do you run with Removable Storage Manager services running? See #5.
 
5. I'm confused about what driver to load for the Seagate Viper LTO drives
in my library: Seagate's or the Veritas halfinch.sys driver? The installer
for the Veritas drivers mentioned that the halfinch.sys driver is not
compatible with MS Removable Storage Manager...
 
6. Do you have your system set up to backup the catalog after every session,
or other?
 
I'm so thankful for this list and your help. My blood pressure just dropped
80 points.

-----Original Message-----
From: Spearman, David [mailto:spe08 AT co.henrico.va DOT us] 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:48 PM
To: 'Chris Brewer'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU Server Rebuild


You can follow the usual steps of building a new server and importing the db
tapes.....the other is to use a different backup program. Make sure your
master server is quiescent,ie, not doing any backups and do a full backup of
that system, say with Backup Exec. At any rate build your new box and load
up advanced server. Rules of thumb....250MB memory for every tape drive, 1
gb disk space for every 50gb of data to back up, the suggestion is to mirror
rather than raid 5 but we do raid 5 no problem, dual procs of at least the
800mhz variety. Then dump your backup to the new machine, two very cool
things happen, W2K plug and play adjusts to the new hardware and all the
work you have done thus far will not have to be redone. You might need a few
disk drivers to load in but probably not.
 
Just FYI...you will need to patch up to 3.4.1_2 one of these days soon. We
run w2k master/media with an stk700 and 6 stk9840 drives, I love this
system.
 
David Spearman
County of Henrico
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Brewer [mailto:cgbrewer AT RMBSC DOT COM]
Sent: 21 February, 2002 15:13
To: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU Server Rebuild



Howdy all, 

New to Netbackup, new to the list! I'm coming into an environment where NBU
3.41 is running on Win2k Advanced Server (ha). This box is having so many
issues (some hardware [raid controller]) and some (I think) software. The
STK L40 robot (dual LTO drives) has gone thru several firmware revs, as have
the LTO drives themselves. Additionally, the catalog size is getting large
enough to cause concern with the server's small available drive size (not to
mention that the data resides on one disk w/no RAID!). I would like to start
with a fresh install on a new box with more HD space in a RAID-5
configuration, where I can keep change control logs from the get go. I've
seen postings indicating that hostname should stay the same, and am prepared
to do so.

Can someone point me to docs or provide info outlining how to accomplish
this? Is it as simple as a NBU 3.41 installation on the new box, and a
recovery of the catalogs off tape?

Many thanks! 

Chris Brewer 
UNIX Systems Consultant 
Rocky Mountain Broadband Solution Center 
KPMG Consulting, Inc. 
6399 S. Fiddler's Green Circle #400 
Greenwood Village, CO 80104 

720-493-7992 



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<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Thanks 
so much. A few questions/comments if I may(?):</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2>1. When you speak of dumping from tape, do you mean just catalogs? 
That's 
what I'd like to do (I think)... If that's what I do, will all my&nbsp;<SPAN 
class=499165520-21022002>classes/schedules move over? If not, is there a way to 
pull these over too (I cringe at the thought of recreating them, but upfront 
work beats daily brow-beating!)? Check my logic here:&nbsp;Build out 
and&nbsp;bring up the new server with the&nbsp;IP/hostname of the original 
server; rename/re-ip the old server making sure no NetBackup services start at 
reboot; install Veritas NBU w/the Jumbo 2 patch; copy the catalogs over the 
network&nbsp;(C:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\db, C:\Program 
Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\database, and C:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\var); 
test; drink beer if successful, else drink Mountain 
Dew.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN 
class=499165520-21022002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2>2.&nbsp;<SPAN class=499165520-21022002>Here's what I think the culprit 
may be: </SPAN><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>The following patches were 
installed in this order:</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * NB_341_1 (ran twice, 
oddly enough!)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * 
NB_341_PO858</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * 
NB_341_2</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * 
NB_341_PO836</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * 
NB_341_PO896</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * NB_341_1 (!! Aha! 
Ran 
twice again!)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * NB_341_PO858 (!! 
again)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * NB_341_2 (!! 
again)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * NB_341_1 (!! 
again)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * NB_341_PO858 (!! 
again)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * NB_341_2 (!! 
again)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * NB_341_PO836 (!! 
again)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * NB_341_PO896 (!! 
again)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>Holy moly! That smells like trouble, eh? 
Further support for rebuilding, I'd say... 
Anyone?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN 
class=499165520-21022002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>3. What do you recommend as far as 
installing Veritas patches (ie, all patches as they're released, only jumbo 
patches, or what...)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN 
class=499165520-21022002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT><FONT><SPAN 
class=499165520-21022002></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>4</SPAN>. Do you run with Removable 
Storage Manager services running?<SPAN class=499165520-21022002> See 
#5.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=499165520-21022002>5</SPAN>. I'm confused about what driver 
to load for the Seagate Viper LTO drives in my library: Seagate's or the 
Veritas 
halfinch.sys driver? The installer for the Veritas drivers mentioned that the 
halfinch.sys driver is not compatible with MS Removable Storage 
Manager...</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><SPAN class=499165520-21022002><FONT 
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>6. Do you have your system set up to backup the 
catalog after every session, or other?</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=406144920-21022002><SPAN class=499165520-21022002><FONT 
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'm so thankful for this list and your help. My 
blood pressure just dropped 80 points.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Spearman, David 
  [mailto:spe08 AT co.henrico.va DOT us] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 
21, 2002 
  1:48 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Chris Brewer'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 
  Server Rebuild<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=817023720-21022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>You 
  can follow the usual steps of building a new server and importing the db 
  tapes.....the other is to use a different backup program. Make sure your 
  master server is quiescent,ie, not doing any backups and do a full backup of 
  that system, say with Backup Exec. At any rate build your new box and load up 
  advanced server. Rules of thumb....250MB memory for every tape drive, 1 gb 
  disk space for every 50gb of data to back up, the suggestion is to mirror 
  rather than raid 5 but we do raid 5 no problem, dual procs of at least the 
  800mhz variety. Then dump your backup to the new machine, two very cool 
things 
  happen, W2K plug and play adjusts to the new hardware and all the work you 
  have done thus far will not have to be redone. You might need a few disk 
  drivers to load in but probably not.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=817023720-21022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=817023720-21022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Just 
  FYI...you will need to patch up&nbsp;to 3.4.1_2&nbsp;one of these days soon. 
  We run w2k master/media with an stk700 and 6 stk9840 drives, I love this 
  system.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=817023720-21022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=817023720-21022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>David Spearman</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=817023720-21022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>County of Henrico</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=817023720-21022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=817023720-21022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Chris Brewer 
  [mailto:cgbrewer AT RMBSC DOT COM]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 21 February, 2002 
  15:13<BR><B>To:</B> 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu'<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
  [Veritas-bu] NBU Server Rebuild<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Howdy all,</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>New to Netbackup, new to the list! I'm coming into 
  an environment where NBU 3.41 is running on Win2k Advanced Server (ha). This 
  box is having so many issues (some hardware [raid controller]) and some (I 
  think) software. The STK L40 robot (dual LTO drives) has gone thru several 
  firmware revs, as have the LTO drives themselves. Additionally, the catalog 
  size is getting large enough to cause concern with the server's small 
  available drive size (not to mention that the data resides on one disk w/no 
  RAID!). I would like to start with a fresh install on a new box with more HD 
  space in a RAID-5 configuration, where I can keep change control logs from 
the 
  get go. I've seen postings indicating that hostname should stay the same, and 
  am prepared to do so.</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can someone point me to docs or provide info 
  outlining how to accomplish this? Is it as simple as a NBU 3.41 installation 
  on the new box, and a recovery of the catalogs off tape?</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Many thanks!</FONT> </P>
  <P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>Chris Brewer</FONT></B> <BR><FONT face=Arial 
  size=1>UNIX Systems Consultant</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=1>Rocky 
  Mountain Broadband Solution Center</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=1>KPMG 
  Consulting, Inc.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=1>6399 S. Fiddler's Green 
  Circle #400</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=1>Greenwood Village, CO 
  80104</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT face=Arial size=1>720-493-7992</FONT> 
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