Sounds like Deron hit the nail on the head for Andrew's original question.  We
have a NetApp and back it up with NB 3.2.  We have chosen to put the NetApp in
it's own class, and set the server file spec to include all the top level
directories (and not include the .snapshots in that list :-)  That seems to work
well, and has the added advantage of allowing us to stream :
NEW_STREAM
/netapp/u
NEW_STREAM
/netapp/c
NEW_STREAM
/netapp/a
/netapp/css
....

Drawback is of course that if you add a top-level structure, you need to monitor
that, and change the class configuration. Speed is not great, but there is no
noticable performance degradation for the clients during backup so we can 
schedule
a fairly flexible window.  (We use the netapp to mount user home directories for
the campus to various hosts)
We're thinking about NDMP for the future.  I hope this helps....Gerrit

Deron Johnson wrote:

> Do you also have an include list?  If you do, NetBackup will try to
> traverse the entire directory structure, looking for files to
> "reinclude".  See <http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/243057.htm> for
> more information.
>
> --
> Deron Johnson
> djohnson AT amgen DOT com
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 12:05:19PM +1100, Andrew Wilkin wrote:
> > Hi list,
> >
> > Server - NetBackup 3.2 on HPUX 10.20 and Client - NetWork Appliance unit
> > with NetApp Release 5.3.2D4 OS.
> >
> > I don't have the NDMP extension so I'm backing-up the system via NFS mounts
> > on my backup Server. I have an exclude list that excludes the /snapshot
> > directories.
> >
> > The problem I have is that NetBackup seems to still traverse the /snapshot
> > directories, even though they are excluded, and as a consequence, during the
> > backup of the NetApp, /snapshot/hourly8 is deleted via the snapshot
> > management process, but Veritas is trying to backup this directory structure
> > and I get a stale NFS error (though I don't want to backup the /snapshot
> > directory anyway!)
> >
> > TIME SERVER/CLIENT TEXT
> >
> > 01/24/02 09:51:58 sydbak sydbaka from client sydbaka: ERR - Cannot lstat64
> >
> > /licups/.snapshot/hourly.8/updates/Thu17Jan2002/20021701085
> >
> > 800.PARR3132N. Errno = 70: Stale NFS file handle
> >
> > 01/24/02 09:51:58 sydbak sydbaka from client sydbaka: ERR - Cannot lstat64
> >
> > /licups/.snapshot/hourly.8/updates/Thu17Jan2002/20021701085
> >
> > 823.PARR3132S. Errno = 70: Stale NFS file handle
> >
> > 01/24/02 09:51:59 sydbak sydbaka from client sydbaka: ERR - Cannot lstat64
> >
> > /licups/.snapshot/hourly.8/updates/Thu17Jan2002/20021701085
> >
> > 849.cPARR01116. Errno = 70: Stale NFS file handle
> >
> > At the moment I'm just ignoring these errors but I'm afraid that I may
> > inadvertently skip over a genuine error!
> >
> > Any help  would be greatly appreciated.
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