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2001-12-10 10:13:42
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Control M
From: Kevin_Trotman AT AFCC DOT com (Trotman, Kevin)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:13:42 -0600 
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I've had an outage and haven't been able to reply to this, but I think this
is exactly what I'm looking for. I don't use Ctl-M. Unfortunately Netbackup
doesn't lend itself very well to anyone other than admins for tracking,.
monitoring, or operations tasks it seems. So, I've developed a pretty good
home-grown monitor. I've got the beginnings of reporting (nbar seems to be
only for admins mostly) and can easily design whatever I want there. But
I've seriously lacked operations tasks due to not being able to re-run a job
without re-running a whole LOT of data. I had not yet come acrost the
ability supply a list of files. I found it in the manual after seeing your
message though. I could do as someone suggested and just extend the window
and hope it goes well. But that doesn't really give me the ability to get a
procedure or operation going. For instance, I can't put in a ticket/page/or
anything on a job that truely fails more than once, etc.
 
Maybe eventually I can convince the org here to let me release the code for
this. Its goals are to kind of mainframe-ize backup operations, which is not
necessarily a good thing int he open systems world. Assuming there is an
interest in productionalized reporting/monitoring/and operations for all of
this stuff I may look into it.  ;)
 
Thanks for the help,
Kevin 
-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg Yurchak [mailto:gyurchak AT veritas DOT com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 3:06 PM
To: 'White, Steve'; 'Brian_Drager AT vanguard DOT com';
'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Control M


NetBackup can't auto-retry these jobs from an outside scheduler, as they're
either manuals or user-directed, neither of which is retried.  What you
could do is take the file list from any and all failed jobs/streams, echo
them out to another file, and then have Control-M check to see if this file
is there before exiting cleanly.  If it is, you can have your Control-M
script kick off another backup and use the error file as the file list to be
backed up (which would therefore override what was listed in the class).
 
Thanks,
Gregg Yurchak
VERITAS Professional Services
Biloxi, MS
Cell:   228.324.6939
Office: 228.575.6299
-----Original Message-----
From: White, Steve [mailto:Steve.White AT pacificorp DOT com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 9:57 AM
To: 'Brian_Drager AT vanguard DOT com'; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Control M
 
Control-M will not be able to restart one stream, it would have to run the
whole job stream.  This is one potential reason to allow NetBackup to retry
the job since it will be able to only run the failed stream.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Brian_Drager AT vanguard DOT com [ mailto:Brian_Drager AT vanguard DOT com
<mailto:Brian_Drager AT vanguard DOT com> ] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 6:04 AM 
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Control M 
 
Control M question for NetBackup, 
If you have a class that setup using multi-streaming and all_local_drives 
defined in files list, how does control M know which failed backup to kick
off 
asusuming C:\ & D:\ finished and E:\ failed. 
Thanks 
 
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D987523014-10122001>I've=20
had an outage and haven't been able to reply to this, but I think this =
is=20
exactly what I'm looking for. I don't use Ctl-M. Unfortunately =
Netbackup doesn't=20
lend itself very well to anyone other than admins for tracking,. =
monitoring, or=20
operations tasks it seems. So, I've developed a pretty good home-grown =
monitor.=20
I've got the beginnings of reporting (nbar seems to be only for admins =
mostly)=20
and can easily design whatever I want there. But I've seriously lacked=20
operations tasks due to not being able to re-run a job without =
re-running a=20
whole LOT of data. I had not yet come acrost the ability supply a list =
of files.=20
I found it in the manual after seeing your message though. I could do =
as someone=20
suggested and just extend the window and hope it goes well. But that =
doesn't=20
really give me the ability to&nbsp;get a procedure or operation going. =
For=20
instance, I can't put in a ticket/page/or anything on a job that truely =
fails=20
more than once, etc.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D987523014-10122001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D987523014-10122001>Maybe=20
eventually I can convince the org here to let me release the code for =
this. Its=20
goals are to kind of mainframe-ize backup operations, which is not =
necessarily a=20
good thing int he open systems world. Assuming there is an interest=20
in&nbsp;productionalized reporting/monitoring/and operations for all of =
this=20
stuff I may look into it.&nbsp; ;)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D987523014-10122001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D987523014-10122001>Thanks=20
for the help,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D987523014-10122001>Kevin&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Gregg Yurchak=20
  [mailto:gyurchak AT veritas DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 05, =
2001=20
  3:06 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'White, Steve'; 'Brian_Drager AT vanguard DOT com';=20
  'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[Veritas-bu]=20
  Control M<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">NetBackup =
can't=20
  auto-retry these jobs from an outside scheduler, as they're either =
manuals or=20
  user-directed, neither of which is retried.<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>What you could do is take =
the file=20
  list from any and all failed jobs/streams, echo them out to another =
file, and=20
  then have Control-M check to see if this file is there before exiting =

  cleanly.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>If it is, you =
can have=20
  your Control-M script kick off another backup and use the error file =
as the=20
  file list to be backed up (which would therefore override what was =
listed in=20
  the class).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <DIV>
  <P style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-no-proof: =
yes">Thanks,<BR></SPAN></FONT><st1:PersonName><FONT=20
  color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-no-proof: yes">Gregg=20
  Yurchak</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><FONT color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-no-proof: yes"><BR>VERITAS =

  Professional Services<BR>Biloxi, MS<BR>Cell:&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  228.324.6939<BR>Office: =
228.575.6299</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original=20
  Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> =
White,=20
  Steve [mailto:Steve.White AT pacificorp DOT com<SPAN class=3DGramE>] =
<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent</SPAN></B></SPAN><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, December 05, 2001 =
9:57=20
  AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
  'Brian_Drager AT vanguard DOT com'; </SPAN></FONT><st1:PersonName><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">veritas-bu</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">@mailman.eng.auburn.edu<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Veritas-bu] =
Control=20
  M</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Control-M will not be able to restart one =
stream, it=20
  would have to run the whole job stream.&nbsp; This is one potential =
reason to=20
  allow NetBackup to retry the job since it will be able to only run =
the failed=20
  stream.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
  <P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----</SPAN></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From: =
Brian_Drager AT vanguard DOT com [<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:Brian_Drager AT vanguard DOT com">mailto:[email protected]=
om</A>]</SPAN></FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent: Wednesday, =
December 05,=20
  2001 6:04 AM</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:=20
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject: [Veritas-bu] Control =
M</SPAN></FONT>=20
  <o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal=20
  style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; =
mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Control M question for =
NetBackup,</SPAN></FONT>=20
  <o:p></o:p></P>
  <P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">If you have a class that setup using =
multi-streaming=20
  and all_local_drives</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">defined in files list, how does control M =
know which=20
  failed backup to kick off</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">asusuming C:\ &amp; D:\ finished and E:\=20
  failed.</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P>
  <P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thanks</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal=20
  style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; =
mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">_______________________________________________</SPAN></FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Veritas-bu =
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