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No the data Base Edition is an online product, it is just Volume Manager,
File System, Quick I/O, bli and etc.
The Oracle Agent, is the Oracle Extension for NetBackup, a separate product.
Thanks,
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Sixbury, Dan [mailto:sixbury AT celeritas DOT com]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:01 PM
To: 'Bob Bakh'
Cc: EBU (E-mail)
Subject: RMAN / Oracle Agent / Database Edition.
Bob,
Is the database edition (excluding all of the additional add-ons such as
bli, qio, etc.) the same as the Oracle Agent? I was thinking about testing
oracle backups, functionality, performance, manageability, etc for a client.
In this case they are thinking of just using RMAN to backup their Oracle DB.
Their DB is going to grow to eventually be around 700 GB. It is currently
around 200 GB. I know that RMAN allows block level incremental backups
where I believe Netbackup performs the block level backups at the file
system level, outside of the database. I think? I also assume that the
database edition like the Oracle agent interfaces with RMAN, or does DB
Edition not have to use RMAN?
DBAs: Preferences between using RMAN, RMAN interfaced with the NBU Oracle
agent, or using the Database Edition?
Thanks,
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Bakh [mailto:bbakh AT veritas DOT com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:14 PM
To: Jeffrey Barber; 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Whats the Difference?
Incase no one got back to you.
NetBackup 3.4 Database Agent (Oracle) is or interface into Oracle's Rman to
do hot backups.
Database Edition 2.1.1 for Oracle is Volume Manager, File System, and QIO
plus other features designed to help Oracle run faster online. Plus the
addition of DBED and NBU plus Advanced BLI gives you a different way to
backup up Oracle at the Block Level.
I think that's enough acronyms for now, if you have any questions it's best
you contact your SE or Sales Rep to help with Licensing questions or to make
sure you have all the right parts to do as you want.
TTFN
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Barber [mailto:jab AT swoop.2y DOT net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 8:37 PM
To: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Whats the Difference?
Hey guys
I have a copy of Netbackup 3.4 Database Agents (Oracle) and a copy of
Database Edition 2.1.1 for Oracle. I am trying to figure out what the
difference is between these two products. Both seem to be able to perform
hot backups.
Please share your thoughts on this.
Thanks
Jeffrey 'J' Barber
When I see the sea once more,
would the sea have seen or not seen me?
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<DIV><SPAN class=130105421-07062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>No
the
data Base Edition is an online product, it is just Volume Manager, File System,
Quick I/O, bli and etc.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=130105421-07062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=130105421-07062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
Oracle Agent, is the Oracle Extension for NetBackup, a separate
product.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=130105421-07062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=130105421-07062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Thanks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=130105421-07062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=130105421-07062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Bob</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Sixbury, Dan
[mailto:sixbury AT celeritas DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 07, 2001
1:01
PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Bob Bakh'<BR><B>Cc:</B> EBU (E-mail)<BR><B>Subject:</B>
RMAN
/ Oracle Agent / Database Edition.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=413335719-07062001>Bob,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=413335719-07062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=413335719-07062001>Is
the database edition (excluding all of the additional add-ons such as bli,
qio, etc.) the same as the Oracle Agent? I was thinking about testing
oracle backups, functionality, performance, manageability, etc for a
client. In this case they are thinking of just using RMAN to backup
their Oracle DB. Their DB is going to grow to eventually be around 700
GB. It is currently around 200 GB. I know that RMAN allows block
level incremental backups where I believe Netbackup performs the block level
backups at the file system level, outside of the database. I
think? I also assume that the database edition like the Oracle agent
interfaces with RMAN, or does DB Edition not have to use
RMAN?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=413335719-07062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=413335719-07062001>DBAs: Preferences between using RMAN, RMAN
interfaced with the NBU Oracle agent, or using the Database
Edition?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=413335719-07062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=413335719-07062001>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=413335719-07062001>Dan</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=413335719-07062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Bob Bakh
[mailto:bbakh AT veritas DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 06, 2001
5:14
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Jeffrey Barber;
'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[Veritas-bu]
Whats the Difference?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><SPAN class=175471322-06062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Incase no one got back to you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=175471322-06062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=175471322-06062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>NetBackup 3.4 Database Agent (Oracle) is or interface into Oracle's
Rman to do hot backups.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=175471322-06062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=175471322-06062001><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>Database
Edition 2.1.1 for Oracle is Volume Manager, File System, and QIO plus other
features designed to help Oracle run faster online. Plus the addition
of DBED and NBU plus Advanced BLI gives you a different way to backup up
Oracle at the Block Level.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=175471322-06062001><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=175471322-06062001><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>I think
that's enough acronyms for now, if you have any questions it's best you
contact your SE or Sales Rep to help with Licensing questions or to make
sure you have all the right parts to do as you want.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=175471322-06062001><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=175471322-06062001><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>TTFN</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=175471322-06062001><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=175471322-06062001><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>Bob</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Jeffrey Barber
[mailto:jab AT swoop.2y DOT net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 29, 2001
8:37
PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT
edu'<BR><B>Subject:</B>
[Veritas-bu] Whats the Difference?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Hey guys</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2> </FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>I have a copy of Netbackup 3.4 Database Agents (Oracle) and a copy
of</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Database Edition 2.1.1 for
Oracle. I am trying to figure out what the</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2>difference is between these two products. Both
seem to be able to perform</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>hot
backups.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Please share your thoughts on
this.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks</FONT> <BR><B><FONT face="Courier New"
color=#800000 size=2>Jeffrey 'J' Barber</FONT></B> </P>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>When I see the sea once
more,</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>would the
sea have seen or not seen me?</FONT>
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