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Re: [Networker] client licenses for vmware virtual machines

2010-03-23 11:13:30
Subject: Re: [Networker] client licenses for vmware virtual machines
From: mark wragge <mark_t_wragge AT YAHOO DOT IE>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 08:11:27 -0700
Thanks for this information.
 
>From the information i have recevied today i think that The Virtual Edition 
>Client Connection licence must therefore be required for VCB backups.
 
Mark

--- On Tue, 23/3/10, MIchael Leone <Michael.Leone AT PHA.PHILA DOT GOV> wrote:


From: MIchael Leone <Michael.Leone AT PHA.PHILA DOT GOV>
Subject: Re: [Networker] client licenses for vmware virtual machines
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Tuesday, 23 March, 2010, 12:35


EMC NetWorker discussion <NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU> wrote on 
03/23/2010 08:01:26 AM:

> Hi, the admin guide states the following which indicates that there 
> is specific licenseing differences for VMs:
>  
> The Virtual Edition Client Connection licence type is used to 
> license virtual machines
> in the NetWorker environment. The Physical host identified in the 
> Client resource
> consumes one Virtual Edition Client Connection license, regardless of 
how many
> virtual clients are running on that host. If
> 
> So i am none the wiser as to what licenses i require.

It works like this (I think):

The license you quoted above is for 1 physical host (the actual VMware 
box). The Virtual Edition Client Connection is the license for all clients 
on that particular host. However, my understanding is that if you get this 
license, you can't recover individual files in those VMs, but only the 
entire VM. (since to VMware, each VM is really just a couple large binary 
files) I think of it as similar to doing a saveset recover, but without 
the option to specify only certain files, with each VM being similar to an 
entire saveset. When you recover, you get the entire saveset (entire VM). 
This is good for recovering in bulk, perhaps for D/R purposes.

Me, I need to be able to recover individual files from each VM. So I buy 
the regular NW client licenses, and treat each VM as if it was a separate 
physical machine, and backup/recover (and license) the same as my physical 
machines.

HTH (and I hope I am right about the licenses, and haven't confused the 
issue more)

>  
> Thanks, Mark
>  
> 
> --- On Tue, 23/3/10, denis.mail.list AT free DOT fr <denis.mail.list AT free 
> DOT fr> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> From: denis.mail.list AT free DOT fr <denis.mail.list AT free DOT fr>
> Subject: Re: [Networker] client licenses for vmware virtual machines
> To: "EMC NetWorker discussion" <NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU>, 
> "mark wragge" <mark_t_wragge AT YAHOO DOT IE>
> Date: Tuesday, 23 March, 2010, 11:12
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> VM are physical machines, according to Networker.
> 
> The client is running on every machine, not on the vmware.
> 
> Denis
> 
> ----- "mark wragge" <mark_t_wragge AT YAHOO DOT IE> a écrit :
> 
> > Hi, do i need to license vmware VMs in the same way that i would do
> > for physical machines? For example, if i have 3 Windows VMs should i
> > have 3 networker client licenses.
>
> > Additionally, if the windows VMs are configured as a Windows Cluster
> > running SQL do i need to license for windows cluster client connection
> > per node and 1 * SQL agent?
>
> > Thanks for any help on this.
>
> > Mark Wragge
> > 
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