Well we would do a few things.... We have a 100TB VTL... So we do monthly
Fulls and daily incr. I'd modify things so that the full weekend was more
distributed throughout the month, also at the end of the day, I'd plan to
reduce the VMWare density just a bit.
Alec
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Joel Fisher" <jfisher AT wfubmc DOT edu>
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:58:03
To: <NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU>; Francis Swasey<Frank.Swasey AT UVM
DOT EDU>; Alec Effrat<anacreo AT gmail DOT com>
Subject: RE: [Networker] Avamar
Hey Frances/Alec,
But the virtual server licensing doesn't address resource contention
issues that happens with backups in a virtual environment? How are you
planning to get around that?
Thanks!
Joel
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From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] On
Behalf Of Francis Swasey
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:28 AM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [Networker] Avamar
Hey Joel,
That's the same plan the EMC sales force told me about -- but that means
you now have paid for
the AVAMAR solution and also have to pay for a NetWorker client license
for each one of your
guests. Hence I'm in agreement with Alec. As I need to expand the
licenses to cover my
guests, I'm going to be switching to the Virtual Server license model --
because I have to run
the NetWorker client on each guest anyway with the current EMC dedupe
product (so I can get a
off-site clone copy on tape per requirements).
Frank
On 7/1/09 10:13 AM, Joel Fisher wrote:
> Hey Siobhan,
>
> My thinking for the lack of tape out, is that I would just run one
> backup a month to regular tape. That fits well with how we do it now.
> Is that still feasible with avamar?
>
> Thank you for your response.
>
> Joel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
On
> Behalf Of Siobhan Ellis
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 4:57 AM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [Networker] Avamar
>
> It works
> It's good for virtual environments
> It has no tape out facility worth speaking about... so think about
your
> retention periods.
>
> Siobhan Ellis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
On
> Behalf Of Joel Fisher
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 6:54 AM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: [Networker] Avamar
>
> Hey Guys,
>
>
>
> We are getting ready to ink the deal on a big VMware environment, but
> the outstanding issue is still... how do we back it all up.
>
>
>
> To protect the VMDKs we are planning on doing snapshots and
replication
> within our storage arrays. But the problem is that we have a
> requirement to provide file level restore capability, and we don't
want
> to spend hours of admin time mounting VMDK snapshots and restoring
> individual files.
>
>
>
> Conceptually, avamar seems like the "perfect" backup solution for a
> VMware environment. Global dedup, minimize server resources used for
> the backup, etc... But I've never used it, so can someone who has had
> some hands on experience give me some insight on whether it really
> works, and what the draw backs are. How well does it tie into
> networker. We are currently 7.4.4(with lots of patches)
>
>
>
> Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> As far as scale goes... we will probably top out at 600-700 guests
> factoring in some creep.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joel
>
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