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Re: [Networker] adv_file, netapp

2009-04-30 20:26:22
Subject: Re: [Networker] adv_file, netapp
From: Craig Faller <craigf AT XSIDATA.COM DOT AU>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:05:08 +1000
Marcel mentioned they would be staging, so no long term or data
retention will exist on the Filer. In the same manner as any Vendor
Filer, If they are going to be actual advanced file devices they will
need to be filesystems zoned and mounted on a Storage node (or nsr svr)
, and used via that storage node to perform your normal Networker
backups to Disk. Then they can be staged directly to Tape on this same
Storage node. If they are used via the Data Movers, then your going to
be in an ndmp solution, and not moving in the direction your wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] On
Behalf Of Lam Nguyen
Sent: Friday, 1 May 2009 12:21 AM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [Networker] adv_file, netapp

I use this configuration.
You use this configuration specially if you have a small backup window
and
an a service agreement with your clients.

We have a service agreement that users can recover their data without
our
intervention. And that It has to be fast.
Naturally you cannot keep it forever on disk. So it is agreed witihin my
organisation that recovery will be "fast" for a month.

So I backup it to disks and run a script to stage all saveset beyond
that
time to free up space.

You can do that if you want fast recovery. People will say that tape
technology pretty fast now. But I find out that it is not as fast as
tape.



On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Francis Swasey
<Frank.Swasey AT uvm DOT edu>wrote:

> On 4/30/09 3:16 AM, Marcel Hirter wrote:
>
>> Hello, We are going to buy a netapp 3140, and use it for D2D...2T
save
>> with networker. Question: Once we've saved on adv_file on the netapp
array,
>> is it possible to stage it to an direct attach (to the netapp) tape
lib,
>> with everything traced in media database ?
>>
>
> If networker writes the data to the netapp (on an adv_file device
(AFTD)),
> and the netapp then moves that data to a physical tape in the tape
library
> attached to the netapp -- NetWorker is going to think the data
(saveset) is
> still on the netapp on the AFTD, and if the netapp doesn't
transparently
> bring that data back to that AFTD when networker tries to open it,
you're
> system is broken badly.
>
> I may be mistaken, but this is the same whole VTL's with directly
attached
> tape drives fall into when they move data to a tape library attached
> directly attached to them without NetWorker knowing it happened.  And
that
> way is the dark side and despair.
>
> --
> Frank Swasey                    | http://www.uvm.edu/~fcs
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