One quiestion I think is relevant here:
Why choose EMC Networker?
Where is Networker stronger thant the competetors mentioned (Netbackup,
Commvault, Dataprotector, TSM)
Where are the weak sides of Networker?
Is any one superiour to another?
>From my experience Networker is not a champion in any field. Sometimes I
think it's EMC's excuse for making a backup product, being such a data
protection company and all.
2008/12/18 Fazil Saiyed <Fazil.Saiyed AT anixter DOT com>
> Hello,
> I think HP, Commvault are worthy competitors, when evaluating backup
> products , existing OS expertise at hand, hardware requirement, DR
> capabilities, ability to effectively manage hardware, Tapes, reporting &
> config changes should be paramount.Backup environment is highly criticized
> upon failures and it would be prudent to have workaround, procedures to
> correct issues on the spot and recovery failed backups, this means even
> not so backup savvy operations staff may need to intervene as its 24X7
> availability, the software which allows workaround, fixes with minimum
> admin intervention may just win out.
> To Networkers defense, i have seen more improvement in last year then
> within last 10, but it still needs to be enhanced much more, specifically
> in Tape,reporting & DR.Networker VCB backups have improved with subsequent
> versions above 7.3.
> Meanwhile, not much enhancement in NDMP support is forthcoming from any
> vendor.
> To my knowledge only Netbackup can do one shot VCB backups & deduplication
> support is good.
> Commvault is an excellent designed product, I have not seen actual
> performance but has very comprehensive tool set & is well integrated,
> Licensing can be challenging & confusing, for everyone i have talked to
> they are pleased with Commvault ( Uses SQL server for it's dB)
> HP Dataprotector finished second by narrow margin compared to Commvault
> recently in one of the study and may be worth looking into.
> I think some form of Dedupe, weather it's Data Domain\Avamar or other
> integration and support for FC within Dedupe environment may be highly
> desirable, as there are promising results from VCB dedupe as well as what
> dedupe in general can do to enhance backup & replication capabilities.
> HTH
>
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>
> Bruce Breidall <Bruce.Breidall AT CONCUR DOT COM>
> Sent by: EMC NetWorker discussion <NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU>
> 12/18/2008 09:42 AM
> Please respond to
> EMC NetWorker discussion <NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU>; Please
> respond
> to
> Bruce Breidall <Bruce.Breidall AT CONCUR DOT COM>
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> To
> NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> cc
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> Subject
> Re: Other back-up products besides NetWorker
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> Define expensive...
>
> Keeping NW running is a lot harder and painful than any of those other
> products mentioned.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
> On
> Behalf Of Conrad Macina
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:15 AM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [Networker] Other back-up products besides NetWorker
>
> This question comes up from time to time. I don't know anything about
> DataProtector and Commvault, but you can search the list archives and
> you'll
> find references.
>
> NetBackup appears to be more complete than NetWorker. A lot of things
> that
> are licensed separately in NetWorker are included "out of the box" in
> NetBackup. For example, open file management and tape drive sharing. But
> the
> impression I've received from other posts (again, search the archives)
> is
> that for most users, NetBackup ends up being more expensive. I would
> imagine
> that if you actually used all the features it might end up being
> competitive.
>
> Conrad Macina
> Pfizer, Inc.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:52:41 +0000, Murphy, Brendan (DBO)
> <Brendan.P.Murphy AT HP DOT COM> wrote:
>
> >DataProtector ... it's cheap, licensing isn't complicated & it does
> everything Networker can. I suspect this is a key reason why EMC have
> been
> attempting to simplify their licensing & adjust pricing.
> >http://www.hp.com/go/dataprotector
> >
> >Veritas NetBackup .... Now owned by Symantec. Don't really know about
> price, but again it does everything Networker does.
> >http://www.symantec.com/business/netbackup
> >
> >CommVault Galaxy .. Again pricing & liecensing unknown but does the job
> >http://www.commvault.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Kind Regards,
> >Brendan Murphy,
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
> On
> Behalf Of tcassid AT kimball DOT com
> >Sent: 17 December 2008 16:20
> >To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> >Subject: [Networker] Other back-up products besides NetWorker
> >
> >We use NetWorker as our back-up produce but was wondering if there are
> any
> >other back-up products out there in the market that are pretty equal
> but
> >cost less to use.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
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