Hello,
I think HP, Commvault are worthy competitors, when evaluating backup
products , existing OS expertise at hand, hardware requirement, DR
capabilities, ability to effectively manage hardware, Tapes, reporting &
config changes should be paramount.Backup environment is highly criticized
upon failures and it would be prudent to have workaround, procedures to
correct issues on the spot and recovery failed backups, this means even
not so backup savvy operations staff may need to intervene as its 24X7
availability, the software which allows workaround, fixes with minimum
admin intervention may just win out.
To Networkers defense, i have seen more improvement in last year then
within last 10, but it still needs to be enhanced much more, specifically
in Tape,reporting & DR.Networker VCB backups have improved with subsequent
versions above 7.3.
Meanwhile, not much enhancement in NDMP support is forthcoming from any
vendor.
To my knowledge only Netbackup can do one shot VCB backups & deduplication
support is good.
Commvault is an excellent designed product, I have not seen actual
performance but has very comprehensive tool set & is well integrated,
Licensing can be challenging & confusing, for everyone i have talked to
they are pleased with Commvault ( Uses SQL server for it's dB)
HP Dataprotector finished second by narrow margin compared to Commvault
recently in one of the study and may be worth looking into.
I think some form of Dedupe, weather it's Data Domain\Avamar or other
integration and support for FC within Dedupe environment may be highly
desirable, as there are promising results from VCB dedupe as well as what
dedupe in general can do to enhance backup & replication capabilities.
HTH
Bruce Breidall <Bruce.Breidall AT CONCUR DOT COM>
Sent by: EMC NetWorker discussion <NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU>
12/18/2008 09:42 AM
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EMC NetWorker discussion <NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU>; Please respond
to
Bruce Breidall <Bruce.Breidall AT CONCUR DOT COM>
To
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Subject
Re: Other back-up products besides NetWorker
Define expensive...
Keeping NW running is a lot harder and painful than any of those other
products mentioned.
-----Original Message-----
From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] On
Behalf Of Conrad Macina
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:15 AM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [Networker] Other back-up products besides NetWorker
This question comes up from time to time. I don't know anything about
DataProtector and Commvault, but you can search the list archives and
you'll
find references.
NetBackup appears to be more complete than NetWorker. A lot of things
that
are licensed separately in NetWorker are included "out of the box" in
NetBackup. For example, open file management and tape drive sharing. But
the
impression I've received from other posts (again, search the archives)
is
that for most users, NetBackup ends up being more expensive. I would
imagine
that if you actually used all the features it might end up being
competitive.
Conrad Macina
Pfizer, Inc.
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:52:41 +0000, Murphy, Brendan (DBO)
<Brendan.P.Murphy AT HP DOT COM> wrote:
>DataProtector ... it's cheap, licensing isn't complicated & it does
everything Networker can. I suspect this is a key reason why EMC have
been
attempting to simplify their licensing & adjust pricing.
>http://www.hp.com/go/dataprotector
>
>Veritas NetBackup .... Now owned by Symantec. Don't really know about
price, but again it does everything Networker does.
>http://www.symantec.com/business/netbackup
>
>CommVault Galaxy .. Again pricing & liecensing unknown but does the job
>http://www.commvault.com/
>
>
>
>
>Kind Regards,
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>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: 17 December 2008 16:20
>To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
>Subject: [Networker] Other back-up products besides NetWorker
>
>We use NetWorker as our back-up produce but was wondering if there are
any
>other back-up products out there in the market that are pretty equal
but
>cost less to use.
>
>Thanks
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