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Re: [Networker] Netapp NDMP backup setup

2008-12-04 12:37:41
Subject: Re: [Networker] Netapp NDMP backup setup
From: Fazil Saiyed <Fazil.Saiyed AT ANIXTER DOT COM>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:35:21 -0600
Hello,
It all depends on how your filer environment is setup and what are your 
backup requirement  are i.e
If you have small volumes i.e less then 300 GB them just back them up with 
one client ( volume level) & a single schedule ( A backup schedule can be 
applied to multiple Networker groups or a group can have a level itself)
How many Qtree's do you have in a given volume, my approach would be 
backup the smaller  volumes with single schedule ( levels during the week, 
one full at weekend)
With larger volumes you may have to be more creative.
If you do not split up the data with multiple qtree's in a given larger 
volume, then you will have to work towards classification of data ( no 
small job by itself)
If possible split-up the data into manageable qtree's\volumes ( This could 
be harder to do then said).
If in your environment, you have multiple filer admins , adding qtree's at 
will then i feel your pain.
My advise is to keep it as simple as possible, having client for each 
day's backup is not ideal, If you are not meeting the backup time, then 
consider snapshots, VTL & or upgrading filder\tape environment.
HTH





"Joel Fisher" <jfisher AT wfubmc DOT edu> 
12/04/2008 10:29 AM

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We are 100% qtrees…  so I can take a list from qtree status and work with 
that to verify.  I’m in the process of writing a script to do that now.
 
About the over complication part… I don’t see any way to do it less 
complicated and achieve the same result.  A client or group can have an 
associated schedule but as far as I know a saveset inherits the schedule 
from the client or group it is assigned to, so I can’t have one or two 
client entries that can split the savesets across the whole week…. Of 
course ignorance on my part is an option, so I’m open to learning if you 
tell me how to do it.
 
Thanks!
 
Joel
 
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Subject: Re: Netapp NDMP backup setup
 

Hello, 
If your volumes are not large then just avoid qtree backups, if they are 
then you need to maintain & review your savesets, perhaps dumping qtree 
info from the filer then comparing against your configured 
clients\savesets will be needed. 
I only do backups on the qtree, but our environment does not have 100's of 
Qtrees. 
you may be able to do a perl script to list qtree and compare it against 
configured savesets, i do feel that you are overly complicating your 
environment by designing client for each day, at the most configure two 
clients for each filer and control the backups via central schedule, 
dividing up the qtrees that match with your backup schedule. 
HTH 


Joel Fisher <jfisher AT WFUBMC DOT EDU> 
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Hey Guys,



We have a FAS3040c configure as below.



Aggr0

               Vol0

                               Qtree0

                               Qtree1

                               Qtree2

                               ...

               Vol1

                               Qtree0

                               Qtree1

                               ...

...



Backups are working just fine, but I would like to set them up in a
safer way. Currently I have a client entry for each day of the week, and
that client has some subset of the qtrees defined in them so they all
don't run fulls on the same day.  I don't do it on the volume level,
because our volumes are very large.



I'd like to do something like an All on each one, then skip certain ones
on each client for a given day.  Unfortunately using All resolves to a
list of volumes not qtrees.



I'm just wondering if anyone has been able to setup qtree level backups
in a way that prevents data loss, in the event that there is a qtree
added, but mistakenly left off of the backup list.



Thanks!


Joel


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