Re: [Networker] Query in Staging from adv_file
2008-08-20 10:34:52
Comparing Networker to TSM or any of those other products is like
comparing a tricycle to a BMW F 650 GS.
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Subject: Re: [Networker] Query in Staging from adv_file
I completely agree with Preston, but i am curious to find out if any
other
comparable backup software offer this benefits of AFTD now, how does
networker compare to say commvault, netbackup and TSM's AFTD features
and
how about dual copy, that feature if once available could solve cloning
issues ?
HTH
Preston de Guise <enterprise.backup AT GMAIL DOT COM>
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On 20/08/2008, at 1:27 PM, Curtis Preston wrote:
<snip>
> I think the concurrent restore thing is a red herring. Sure, you
> can't do two restores at once from a tape, but:
>
> 1. Most people don't do more than one restore a month, let alone
> more than one a day, let ALONE two at the same time.
> 2. Add to that the odds that the two restores you do at the same
> time would need the same tape at the same time. (Multiplexing would
> increase the chances, but one should not multiplex to virtual tapes.)
> 3. If you want better odds, just use smaller virtual tapes. It
> costs you nothing, adds no management issues (like more AFTDs do),
> and significantly decreases the chance that two restores would be
> grabbing for the same tape.
<snip>
This is certainly a good indication that we have user groups with
wildly varying requirements. While I have some users that fall into
the above category - rare restores, I've equally had plenty that
*frequently* recover - yes, the 400-600+ recoveries per day customer
that I mentioned previously was atypical (in fact, it was effectively
using NetWorker for HSM - and when I logged a support call about it
once the Legato tech thought I'd added an extra 0 onto the end of both
figures...), but I've had plenty where 10-20 recoveries per day is the
norm.
However, I certainly remain hopeful of seeing some changes to AFTD in
NetWorker Real Soon Now, as it's starting to get annoying that we
still can't:
- Run multiple stage operations
- Run multiple clone operations
- Failover a saveset from one DBU to another if it fills
- Better balance backups so that a small number of DBUs see a
disproportionate number of backups due to 'archaic' tape based volume
selection algorithms
Cheers,
Preston.
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