Re: [Networker] Query in Staging from adv_file
2008-08-19 19:40:23
On 20/08/2008, at 9:21 AM, Curtis Preston wrote:
So an AFTD can service multiple concurrent restore requests, but
can't service multiple destaging/cloning requests?
Yes.
I still say the VTL is easier. The difference is that a backup
associated with a given AFTD can only be cloned/destaged by the AFTD
that stored it, where a VTL allows any-to-any relationship of
virtual drives.
If I have 20 virtual tapes and 20 virtual drives, I can clone/
destage them all at once, regardless of how many drives were used to
create them. If an AFTD can only clone/destage one backup at once,
and I want to be able to destage 20 AFTD backups, I have to make
sure that each of them is on a separate AFTD. I don't think that's
even possible, let alone practical.
Am I missing something?
Not particularly; my point was that the value of AFTDs vs VTLs is
going to be highly dependent on your overall requirements, not just
the inability of AFTDs to support multiple staging operations.
If the VTL is configured with multiple pools such that you can
guarantee you can run multiple "staging" operations from it, then in a
scenario where it is necessary to stage out a lot of data, the VTL
will theoretically perform better. I say theoretically because staging
from tape (virtual or otherwise) is more problematic than staging from
disk. Reducing it to cloning though, yes, in a situation where you can
have multiple tape + tape drive operations running concurrently
without overlapping savesets, etc., then the VTL should give better
performance in this particular scenario.
Cheers,
Preston.
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Subject: Re: [Networker] Query in Staging from adv_file
On 20/08/2008, at 8:35 AM, Stan Horwitz wrote:
On Aug 19, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Curtis Preston wrote:
Well, that significantly decreases the value of AFTDs over VTLs in
NetWorker, now doesn't it?
I have no experience with a VTL, but my impression is that you get
the same functionality as physical tape drives, but on disk. If so,
doesn't that limit the amount of streams that can be read from a
virtual tape to just one session at a time, or does it parlay the
fact that multiple local tapes can be serviced concurrently in a VTL?
In theory it doesn't make AFTDs any worse than VTLs, since neither
scenario supports more than one staging operating reading from the
same volume at the same time.
However, in practice VTLs will normally be configured such that there
are a high number of virtual tape drives and a high number of smaller
sized virtual volumes, making it possible to execute more concurrent
reads than either a conventional PTL or a AFTD.
I wouldn't however say that it significantly decreases the value of
AFTDs over VTLs in NetWorker - it entirely depends on what your needs
are. In an environment that requires high levels of recovery
activities, AFTDs may still win out over VTLs - e.g., a previous
customer of mine had a configuration that required 400-600+ recoveries
per working day (i.e., an 8 hour period each day); in this sort of
scenario AFTDs with their ability to allow as many concurrent recovery
sessions as requested are of course King.
Cheers,
Preston.
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