Re: [Networker] A way to recover Networker data without Networker?

True....

One example I can think of that illustrates this point is here in Ohio where I 
work. An college intern had taken home a backup tape from work that contained 
social security numbers of thousands of people in Ohio who had dealt with their 
Workmans Compensation system (I think?). His car was broken into and the backup 
tape along with other items were stolen. The State has agreed to pay for credit 
monitoring for these thousands of people (not cheap), but at the same time they 
issued a statement that it is 'highly unlikely' that someone could figure out 
how to extract meaningful data from the tape.... How did they arrive at that 
conclusion ?
 Do they use some proprietary backup scheme that no one else uses (I doubt it)? 
Maybe the data is encrypted on the tape ? (I also doubt that)

It all depends on the knowledge and skill level of whomever is attempting to 
extract meaningful data from the tape in question... And the resources ($$$) 
available to them. For most of the people on this list, it would not be an 
impossible task, but for the layperson or common criminal, it would be quite an 
undertaking.
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Curtis Preston [mailto:cpreston AT glasshouse DOT com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 3:04 PM
To: EMC NetWorker discussion; Goslin, Paul
Subject: RE: [Networker] A way to recover Networker data without Networker?

If someone stole a tape to read it, they'll eventually figure that out pretty 
easily, if they don't know it already.

---
W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

-----Original Message-----
From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] On 
Behalf Of Goslin, Paul
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 6:48 AM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [Networker] A way to recover Networker data without Networker?

That is provided that they know the data on the tape requires Networker to read 
it.....(and a compatible version at that...)
 
Given a tape with no other information that it is a 'backup' tape, how would 
you 'know' to use Networker to read it, what if it was written by Netbackup or 
another backup product ?



-----Original Message-----
From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] On 
Behalf Of Ken Ciolek
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:38 AM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [Networker] A way to recover Networker data without Networker?

Dave,
 
Yes.....anyone can easily download an eval copy of Networker and install, scan 
for a bootstrap, do the mmrecov, and perform a directed restore of the data to 
any of the clients on the network.
 
 
 
 
*****************************
 
Ken Ciolek, LCNA
Storage Consultant - Design and Implementation Glasshouse Technologies, INC
C: 201 232 6682
ken.ciolek AT glasshouse DOT com <mailto:ken.ciolek AT glasshouse DOT com>
www.glasshouse.com <http://www.glasshouse.com/>  
 
 
 

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From: EMC NetWorker discussion on behalf of Coronel, David
Sent: Wed 7/25/2007 9:32 AM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: [Networker] A way to recover Networker data without Networker?



Good day,

I need to know if it's easy for someone to recover data stored on a tape by 
Networker if that someone doesn't have Networker to restore the data with. It 
may sound like I'm that someone but this is a security audit question. They 
want to know if someone who gets his hands on one of our tapes can restore the 
data easily.

Thanks,
David



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