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Re: [Networker] New NW 7.3 jumbo patch out

2006-05-27 23:52:21
Subject: Re: [Networker] New NW 7.3 jumbo patch out
From: Tape King <tapeking01 AT YAHOO DOT COM>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 20:49:54 -0700
Well all I am saying is that Legato claims to be able to encrypt the backup 
tapes in 7.3, they dont say "except for NDMP". They cannot even encrypt their 
own EMC NAS devices.
  Also I dont care about encrypting the data over the network, it is in case a 
tape is lost my company does not have to be embarassed in the news by saying 
"we lost your info on a backup tape".
  Alot of people have alot of data on these NDMP devices and legato needs to be 
able to encrypt their backup tapes too.
  The workaround, which I came up with and legato was like, oh yea that would 
work.
  It is to backup the NDMP as a mapped drive from a windows host, but then I 
have to exclude that folder from the regular NDMP backup which is a huge pain 
and I lose some legato functionality doing that.
   
  I could by a Decru hardware encryption device but that cost $100K ! Ill take 
legato for free thanks.
   
  any ideas?

Steve Warren <swarren AT CRESEND DOT COM> wrote:
  NDMP "client" features are owned by the vendors of the file servers. EMC
just follows the spec on how to integrate with the various NDMP clients that
are out there (which are really NDMP servers but never mind...).

Anyway, the point is that nobody can encrypt an NDMP backup except the
people who wrote the particular client software you are using, and the
people who wrote the client are the people who made the box you are trying
to back up, not EMC Legato (unless it is an EMC file server).

The only exception might be if you aggregate NDMP streams over the network
to a host-based Legato storage node. In that case EMC could (if they wanted
to - I'm not saying this is available now) choose to write some code that
would crack open the data stream and encrypt it, at the storage node (which
would still be sending the data over the network in the clear - which is
probably not what most encryption customers are hoping for).

However most people use NDMP to write direct to tape from the file server
(over SAN or SCSI connected to the NDMP file server) and if you are doing
that, the only code that controls what is actually written to tape is
file-server-vendor-written code. Your file-server-vendor is the only one who
has the capability to offer general-purpose (over the network, direct to
tape, or whatever) encryption of your NDMP backups.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tape King [mailto:tapeking01 AT YAHOO DOT COM] 
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:01 AM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: Re: New NW 7.3 jumbo patch out

I installed this yesterday.
I had upgraded to 7.3 two weeks ago and have been having alot of problems
with my jukebox.
Support told me to uninstall 7.3 and reinstall the jumbo patch.
I did this and it seems a little better but I won't know until next week.

My other major issue is that 7.3 cannot encrypt NDMP backups, which is a
problem for me. It can only encrypt on the windows and UNIX clients, not
NDMP. Legato didnt even have an answer to this as they seemed to know next
to nothing about the new backup encryption.




Stan Horwitz wrote:
On May 27, 2006, at 5:51 AM, Oscar Olsson wrote:

> I'd call it a new build of 7.3 though. Haven't tried it myself yet, 
> but the list of bugs fixed seems to adress some of the problems we've 
> been experiencing (from the README):
>
> Addressed in this NetWorker package include the following fixes:
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> LGTpa80816: SYSTEM STATE backup of Windows client fails
> LGTpa82466: Savepnpc pstclntsave core dumps intermittently
> LGTpa83356: Automatic staging fails to delete cloned savesets after an 
> error
> LGTpa85010: NW 7.3 nsrexecd cores dump on Linux 4.0
> LGTpa85124: Cannot acquire up to reserved number of licenses from LLM
> LGTpa85174: NMC 3.2 resource issues after upgrading from NMC 3.1
> LGTpa85535: Failed to load tapes during inventory w/o bar code
> LGTpa85546: savepsm hangs when backing up lgto_gst.db > 4 Gbytes
> LGTpa85594: NetWorker nsrd coredumps when there is no "pool" to select
> LGTpa85603: NetWorker Tape marks itself full prematurely
> LGTpa85721: NetWorker nsrd memory leak when run nsrmm -d -S ssid
> LGTpa85937: Out of memory errors in gstd.log
> LGTpa86026: NetWorker error: Server is not licensed for DiskBackup
> LGTpa86286: 7.3 nsrd dumping core on HPUX 11i
> LGTpa86328: Media Database corruption/Storage Node daemon failure
> LGTpa86833: CFI backup faled while backing up 50+ clients
> LGTpa86995: discrepancy in mminfo output
> LGTpa87215: nsrmmgd dumps core if device not in res files
> LGTpa87361: add "init element status" to UI Inventory action
> LGTpa87368: ignore missing save set & client name in jobd session info 
> rec
> LGTpa86982: Add filename and linenumber debugging into error objects
> LGTpa84843: FSC: nsrd loses connection to mediadb
> LGTpa84618: Device is assigned to nsrmmd :: Cannot unload volume from 
> drive
> LGTpa86273: Server is not retrying a retyable errorfor load operation
> LGTpa85809: Temporary mmd not restarted for recover side of clone 
> operation
> LGTpa84620: Slot X is loaded into unavailable drive :: volume stuck in 
> drive
> LGTpa85337: SSL errors caused by bad buffering codein session channels
> LGTpa86290: w/GSSLegato auth:nsrexecd makes frivolous localhost 
> connections
> LGTpa84882: Buffer overflows in nsrexecd command execution request
> LGTpa87659: Copyright information is incorrect for NW 7.3 Jumbo
>
> End of README
>
> The packages are available via FTP from: ftp://ftp.legato.com/ 
> outgoing/LGTpa87661jp/

For those of you who are running NetWorker 7.3 and are experiencing one or
more problems, does this list address the problem(s) you are experiencing? I
seem to recall at least one report on an issue with 7.3 not handling tape
cleaning properly, but I don't see a fix to it on this list unless I
overlooked it.

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