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Re: [Networker] 2005 EMC Technology Summit

2005-05-18 23:22:12
Subject: Re: [Networker] 2005 EMC Technology Summit
From: Siobhan Ellis <Siobhan.Ellis AT ENSTOR DOT COM>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:17:24 +1000
Stan,

I e the Product manager for NMC until late 2003, and was in EMC until late 
2004. I was responsible for NMC 3.0 and 3.1(the current release). I can tell 
you that the new GUI is based on NMC, which is Java based. It is a Java web 
start application, rather than an applet. It is now being bundled free with 
every new Network & Power Edition NetWorker server. It is availabel, today, on 
Windows & Solaris, I believe the intention is to certify Linux as well. As it 
is a Java 1.4.2 application, it should work with any implementation of Java 
1.4.2 that supports Webstart. I can tell you that before I left, I tried it 
with OpenVMS and, with a little work, it worked on that OS. NMC is based on the 
Windows GUI for functionality, but is missing a couple of items, one of which 
is saveset restore. However, it also has some great enhancements, I say 
modestly, such as the drive list is by Hardware Id, so if you have 10 systems 
sharing 4 drives, you don't see 40 devices, as you do with Windows a!
 nd UNiX nwadmin GUI's, but you see 4 drives that have information changed. 
Also, if you happen to use NetWorker with AlphaStor, it show sthe physical path 
it is using as wll as the virtual device. There are other enhancements, such as 
being able to copy a resource, and a better view of the jukebox (especially 
when using multiple NW servers)

I can't comment on the basic/advanced reporting, but this was always the plan 
for the product. Indeed, myself and other people (I wont name as they are still 
in EMC) tried to get it made the default GUI for NetWorker, but Legato decided 
to go in another direction and waste 18 months and about 30 man years of 
development time. One of the managers responsible for that decision is no 
longer with EMC Legato, one still is. (yes, I'm bitter)

I think the PM will be Anselmo. You will find him to be very responsive, and he 
really listens to his audience. I believe the product, and the user community, 
is in good hands with him.

I believe that he is considering launch functionality for other tools, but i 
would also suggest that you push for the ability to interrogate the database 
directly, as it is a SQL compliant database that uses SQL Anywhere from 
iAnywhere (Sybase). All engineering has to do is to provide database views - 
again functionality I wanted to introduce.

Siobhan Ellis
Senior Enginer
ENSTOR
Australia
Siobhán Ellis
Senior Technology Consultant
Enstor
Level 10, 118 Alfred St
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>>> stan AT TEMPLE DOT EDU 05/19/05 12:40 PM >>>
On May 18, 2005, at 9:02 PM, David Browning wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I'm new to the list, as I just found out about it yesterday at the EMC
> Technology summit.  You don't know how frustrating it was to hear  
> about
> this, as I've been a Legato user since 1998 (version 4).  Many a  
> times I
> wish I could have talked to other Networker users.
>
> As for the conference, Legato did not bring a huge presence to the
> conference, but at least it's a start.
>
> I'm going to a birds of a feather meeting on Thursday morning, and  
> just
> wanted to know if anyone had questions.  We will be meeting with  
> one of
> the product managers of Legato - his main area of responsibility is
> product usability.   They announced that in fall/winter of 2005,  
> they will
> be releasing a basic version of NMC (networker management console)  
> to all
> users, with a more advanced version (with additional reporting  
> capability)
> at an additional cost.
>
> If you have any questions you would like me to direct to him,  
> please let
> me know.  ALso, if you have any comments/concerns about USING the  
> product
> (such as too many GUI's / GUI's not the same across OS), please let me
> know.

Welcome to the Networker list. I manage this list (with some help  
when I go away). A tech support engineer introduced me to this list.  
A few months after I first subscribed to the Networker list, I  
volunteered to run it when its founder had to divest himself of his  
involvement with this list.

Thanks for offering to relay questions for us. I do have some  
questions for you to raise at the EMC Technology Summit. Being a Unix  
and Mac OS X advocate, I avoid using Windows as much as possible.  
That being said, the NetWorker Administration GUI for Windows is far  
better then its nwadmin counterpart on Unix. What I would like to  
know is if the features of the Windows administrator GUI will be  
brought over to the Unix version or, even better, if a common  
platform independent Java based NetWorker management GUI is in the  
pipeline. One of the features I really like on the Windows NetWorker  
Administration tool is the ability to click on a group resource entry  
and see which clients are assigned to it. I also like the feature  
where the view options are retained each time the GUI is started.

In addition, I am also curious if the Mac OS X NetWorker version will  
be "GUIfied" and NetWorker server capability added to the Mac.  
Speaking of Mac OS X. Will Legato/EMC certify NetWorker to work with  
Apple's latest Mac OS X version, Tiger? I tried backing up and  
recoverying about 50GB worth of data to the Mac G5 I use in my office  
after I upgraded it to Tiger. It did work, although the recover  
utility hung after the list bit of data was received and it displayed  
a broken pipe error after about five minutes.

Thanks,

Stan

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