Networker

Re: [Networker] TSM Vs. Legato

2004-02-25 20:38:09
Subject: Re: [Networker] TSM Vs. Legato
From: George Sinclair <George.Sinclair AT NOAA DOT GOV>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 20:38:59 -0500
Is this something we need to purchase and license separately, like a
module? I think what Evan was referring to is the fact that it would be
really nice if NetWorker had the reporting capability built in defacto
so we don't need to purchase and license yet another ancillary
component. Maybe a newer or future release of NetWorker will come with
this? Would be nice.

George

Shaun Ellis wrote:
>
> If you want reporting tools, Legato has two. NMC 3.1, which introduces the
> ability to save reports and share them, as well as to run them from the
> command line. Legato also has NetWorker Operations.
>
> I hope that helps
>
> Shaun Ellis
> LEGATO Software
> 3210, Porter Drive
> Palo Alto
> Ca 94304
> Phone: +1 (650) 842 9548
> Mobile: +1 (408) 431 6997
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: egold AT fsa DOT com [mailto:egold AT fsa DOT com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 6:33 AM
> > To: Legato NetWorker discussion; Wick, Kent
> > Subject: Re: [Networker] TSM Vs. Legato
> >
> > I find that legatos lack of reporting tools is disappointing. Getting any
> > stats from legato is a VERY manual process.
> >
> >
> > --------------------------
> > Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Legato NetWorker discussion [NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
> > Sent: 02/25/2004 09:13 AM
> > To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: [Networker] TSM Vs. Legato
> >
> > When we were looking at backup products in 1999, we narrowed the
> > list to TSM (then known as ADSM), Legato and Veritas.  Aside from
> > the differing backup methodologies (TSM - incremental forever) vs
> > Legato and Vertitas (full, incremental and differential) and the
> difference
> > on cost, it usually just a toss up.  No matter which one you pick,
> > there will be something that you end up not liking about it
> > (it may be the user interface or the amount of resources it consumes when
> > doing backups/restores or interfacing with the vendor on getting fixes,
> > new releases, licensing issues.
> >
> > Basically you have to define up front what 'your' criteria is (cost,
> > ease of use, breadth of usable clients, etc, etc).
> > ====================================================
> > Kent Wick,  TxMHMR,  Unix/Network Systems Programmer
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Date:    Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:30:41 +0200
> > > From:    Riaan Louwrens <riaanl AT SOURCECONSULTING.CO DOT ZA>
> > > Subject: Re: TSM Vs. Legato
> > >
> > > Having experience on both ... I cant really recommend one over the other
> -
> > > but -
> > >
> > > Your backup methodology is different (grandfather, father, son (legato)
> vs
> > > "always incremental") between the two. So it depends on how your
> approach
> > > to
> > > restores are.
> > >
> > > I have run some tests,
> > >
> > > With TSM our (test) backup seems to go faster (always less to backup on
> a
> > > daily basis), but you have to have a rather large library, and you
> backup
> > > is
> > > server is quite busy during the day doing tape consolidations, and space
> > > reclamation etc etc ... Personal experience / opinion To do restores you
> > > need to
> > >
> > > Legato on the other hand (our preference) is to do a full backup every
> now
> > > and then and to ten treat those tapes as "gold". This has saved my butt
> > > numerous times (instead of having a range of incremental tapes to
> restore
> > > from).
> > >
> > > No I am sure many TSM punters would come up with a range of benefits to
> > > use
> > > their product (and vice versa).
> > >
> > > TSM has a whole bundle of releases and fixes and patch versions etc,
> which
> > > on the one hand is handy - as problem you might not have (or will
> > > experience
> > > in future) get solved. I prefer Legato's approach of waiting "longer"
> and
> > > having more "stable" releases ... ect etc, yes I know that has its own
> can
> > > of worm,s as regular list reader will know this has been ranted about
> > > recently (not having easy access to fixes, bug patches etc).
> > >
> > > I suppose in the end it comes down to cost, what product (hardware
> vendor)
> > > your company prefers, and who in your country / region you get better
> > > support from..... personally I prefer Legato, but that has probably got
> > > more
> > > to do with the fact that I actually know what goes on in Legato ... ;p
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Riaan
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Librado Pamintuan [mailto:LPAMINTU AT REGINA DOT CA]
> > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 11:18 PM
> > > To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> > > Subject: Re: [Networker] TSM Vs. Legato
> > >
> > >
> > > Based on experience also, one important criteria when selecting a backup
> > > software is;
> > > The backup software should have the client software of your various
> > > server O/S and their commitment to development & research for
> > > newer/enhanced versions.
> > > In our environment, our backup server O/S is  Unix-AIX and the clients
> > > are a mixture of Unix-AIX, NetWare, Windows2000/NT and Linux, Legato
> > > Networker is able to backup all of these platform.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Librado
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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