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Re: [Networker] Netware repeated backup by itself

2003-09-16 09:04:07
Subject: Re: [Networker] Netware repeated backup by itself
From: Robert Maiello <robert.maiello AT MEDEC DOT COM>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:04:00 -0400
If each saveset backup looks complete (size looks right) but then repeats
itself ...this is exactly what happens when a firewall severs/timesout
the tcp control session for the backup...the client cannot then tell the
server it is finished.   Something has timed out/severed this control
session for your backups.

On a firewall the value involved is the amount of time an inactive tcp
session will remain open.

If there is no firewall or other device on the network involved then I
would look for a similar value on the client or server.   Of course, port
settings and duplexes on the switches should be reviewed.


Robert Maiello
Thomson Healthcare



On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:10:58 +1000, Ryan Tassotti <LSS5 AT BRISBANE.QLD.GOV DOT 
AU>
wrote:

>Hi again,
>
>Thanks for the replies.
>
>* Post SP3 NSS patch ... no we haven't applied it yet, although we have on
some of our other clients.  I am sceptical as to whether this will fix the
problem, as this prob was happening when our client was Netware 5.0 SP6a w/
NSS 5n.  But I might give it a shot, cheers.
>
>* TCP keep-alive / timeout values .... not sure if this sort of thing is
configurable in Netware, but I will look into it.
>
>FYI last night's backup of this client is still running, and this time it
is not just one volume that has repeated, ALL of the volumes (5) are
repeating .... and not one has been updated in the indexes yet.  The rest of
the clients in this group completed long ago.
>
>I think I jinxed it by talking about it behind it's back :-)
>
>Regards,
>Ryan.
>
>
>
>
>>>> an AT CEH.AC DOT UK 09/15/03 07:03pm >>>
>Hi:
>Just a thought - are these traditional Netware volumes or NSS volumes?
>You say SYS is fine (which will be NSS).  What about this VOL1 - is
>that NSS?
>There is a patch out for NSS on Netware6 sp3 (nw6nss3b.exe).
>Allan.
>
>>>> LSS5 AT BRISBANE.QLD.GOV DOT AU 15/09/03 07:33:27 >>>
>Hi Robert
>
>We are having the same problem with 1 of our Netware clients.  It is at
>the same revision as our other clients (Netware 6.0 SP3, TSAUP12,
>Networker client 4.21, Networker 6.1.3).
>
>It was also doing it before we upgraded to Netware 6.0, ie. when it was
>Netware 5.0 SP6a, TSAUP9, same Networker client/server.
>
>We seem to be experiencing the same symptom ... the volume will backup,
>complete .... then restart immediately.  The client indexes are not
>updated.  Then it will complete, and immediately restart again.  This
>may happen 8-10 times, and finally, the index is updated, and the
>savegroup completes.
>
>The other volumes are unaffected (ie. they backup once only), although
>I do remember this happening with the other volumes in the past, on this
>same server.
>
>I have recreated this client on the backup server, even on a different
>backup server (same Networker revision), and had the same results.
>
>If you need any more info, mail me off list.
>
>Regards,
>Ryan.
>
>
>>>> robert AT SOFTSOURCE.COM DOT SG 09/15/03 03:59pm >>>
>Hi folks,
>
>My setup environment as below
>W2K NW 6.11
>NetWare 5.1 with ClientPak 4.2
>
>Problem
>We have two Netware clients 5.1 with the same version 4.2. One of the
>Netware server keep on backing up VOL1: repeatedly about 10 over times
>by
>itself. What suprise us is it only keep on backing up VOL1: volume,
>other
>volume like SYS: VOL: are fined
>
>All of the volume fall under the same backup schedule and this doesn't
>happen to my other Netware client. So I suspect problem could due to
>this
>particular netware server but don't know where should I look for, need
>some
>help and advices here, thanks in advance.
>
>For more info with output
>C:\mminfo -av -r "volume,client,savetime(25),level,totalsize,name,pool"
>-ot
>> mminfo.log
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 12:55:48 AM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 12:55:49 AM full 2048004504
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 12:55:50 AM full 2048007740
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 12:55:51 AM full 1779768668
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 01:48:12 AM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 01:48:13 AM full 2048004512
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 01:48:14 AM full 2048004456
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 01:48:15 AM full 1779776868
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 02:39:41 AM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 02:39:42 AM full 2048004512
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 02:39:43 AM full 2048003780
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 02:39:44 AM full 1779801468
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 03:29:44 AM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 03:29:45 AM full 2048004504
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 03:29:46 AM full 2048002320
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 03:29:47 AM full 1779817868
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 04:20:08 AM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 04:20:09 AM full 2048004504
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 04:20:10 AM full 2048003344
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 04:20:11 AM full 1779842468
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 05:09:34 AM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 05:09:35 AM full 2048004496
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 05:09:36 AM full 2048000680
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 05:09:37 AM full 1779858868
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 05:58:57 AM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 05:58:58 AM full 2048004496
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 05:58:59 AM full 2048007572
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 05:59:00 AM full 1779867068
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 06:48:17 AM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 06:48:18 AM full 2048004496
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 06:48:19 AM full 2048008188
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 06:48:20 AM full 1779891668
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 07:37:40 AM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 07:37:41 AM full 2048004496
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 07:37:42 AM full 2048007144
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 07:37:43 AM full 1779908068
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 08:27:02 AM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 08:27:03 AM full 2048004496
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 08:27:04 AM full 2048004488
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 08:27:05 AM full 1779924468
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 09:16:21 AM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 09:16:22 AM full 2048004504
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 09:16:23 AM full 2048002800
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 09:16:24 AM full 1779940868
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 10:05:45 AM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 10:05:46 AM full 2048004504
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 10:05:47 AM full 2048003280
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 10:05:48 AM full 1779965468
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 10:55:07 AM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 10:55:08 AM full 2048004504
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 10:55:09 AM full 2048002220
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 10:55:10 AM full 1779981868
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 11:44:31 AM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 11:44:32 AM full 2048000784
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 11:44:33 AM full 2048007644
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 11:44:34 AM full 1779998268
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 12:33:56 PM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 12:33:57 PM full 2048001500
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 12:33:58 PM full 2048006984
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 12:33:59 PM full 1780014668
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 01:23:19 PM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 01:23:20 PM full 2048002200
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 01:23:21 PM full 2048003704
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 01:23:22 PM full 1780022868
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 02:13:08 PM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 02:13:09 PM full 2048002200
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 02:13:10 PM full 2048001572
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 02:13:11 PM full 1780039268
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 03:03:49 PM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 03:03:50 PM full 2048002200
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 03:03:51 PM full 2048000284
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 03:03:52 PM full 1780055668
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ533         sgp-app2        09/13/03 03:53:59 PM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ530         sgp-app2        09/13/03 03:53:59 PM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ533         sgp-app2        09/13/03 03:54:00 PM full 2048002200
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ533         sgp-app2        09/13/03 03:54:01 PM full 2048005204
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ533         sgp-app2        09/13/03 03:54:02 PM full 1780055668
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ533         sgp-app2        09/13/03 04:46:16 PM full 2048002744
>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ533         sgp-app2        09/13/03 04:46:17 PM full 2048002200
><1>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ533         sgp-app2        09/13/03 04:46:18 PM full 2048003068
><2>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ533         sgp-app2        09/13/03 04:46:19 PM full 1780072068
><3>VOL1:
>Full Sat Pool
>DDZ533         sgp-backup01    09/13/03 05:37:04 PM full  232054896
>index:sgp-app2                Full Sat Pool
>
>Cheers...
>Robert
>
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