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Re: [Networker] Windows 2000 cluster backups not working as expected.

2003-09-15 11:15:33
Subject: Re: [Networker] Windows 2000 cluster backups not working as expected.
From: Itzik Meirson <imeirson AT MBI.CO DOT IL>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:08:09 +0200
We have also such an issue open with Legato support.
In our case the Q: disk is listed as a shared device in the cluster
configuration.
Disks D: and E: are however not listed as shared disks as they are
provided by HP (Compaq) "Virtual Replicator" add-on software (Standard
on En000 NAS servers).
This messes up Networker as it is not capable to relate disks D: and E:
to any specific cluster virtual resource.
HP support was not able (yet) to define the virtual replicator provided
disks into the MS cluster configuration as a "Physical or Virtual disk"
resource.

I will of course appreciate very much any additional insight some of you
may shade on this issue...

Itzik


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Renty, Bart [mailto:bart.renty AT HP DOT COM]
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 11:20
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [Networker] Windows 2000 cluster backups not working as
expected.
> 
> I've seen this when there is no "Physical Disk" resource type assigned
> to a shared disk in cluster admin.
> If you look at the virtual groups in cluster admin, do you see a line
> concerning these disks E: and Q: , containing "Physical Disk" as
> resource type ?
> 
> Bart
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stuart Lamble [mailto:networker AT CAROUSEL.ITS.MONASH.EDU DOT AU]
> Sent: donderdag 11 september 2003 8:54
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: [Networker] Windows 2000 cluster backups not working as
> expected.
> 
> 
> Greetings, folks. We have a little bit of a problem here, and I'm
> utterly stumped. First, the system details: we have two W2k clusters,
> configured essentially identically (one is used for QAT, the other,
for
> production. Or they will be, when the software they were bought to run
> goes live.) Both clusters are in their own Active Directory domain, in
a
> distinct, invalid (from an Internet point of view) domain name. In
both
> cases, the only members of the domain are the physical nodes in the
> cluster. All systems have been patched to at least service pack three
> (and generally have a number of other hotfixes applied over and above
> that.)
> 
> Each physical node has two drives local to itself -- drives C: and S:.
> Each cluster has two shared drives -- drives E: (holding SQL Server
> data) and Q: (the cluster quorum). The nature of Windows clustering
> being what it is, these latter two drives are both held by only one
> physical host at a time (although not necessarily the same physical
> host).
> 
> For the sake of discussion, the two physical nodes are called
> "physical1.its.monash.edu" and "physical2.its.monash.edu" in the
> Internet-visible DNS; within the domain, they know each other as
> "physical1.virtual.local" and "physical2.virtual.local". Each cluster
> defines two virtual hosts. The first is associated with the cluster
> quorum, and is named "virtual.its.monash.edu" in the Internet-visible
> DNS. The Windows Cluster name in this case is "VIRTUAL-CLUSTER", and
the
> Active Directory DNS knows it as "virtual-cluster.virtual.local".
> 
> The second virtual host is associated with the SQL Server that is
> running on these systems, and is named
"virtual-sql.its.monash.edu.au",
> "VIRTUAL-SQL", and "virtual-sql.virtual.local" (in the same order as
> above.)
> 
> The Networker servers are running either Networker 6.1.2 Power Edition
> on Solaris 2.7, or Networker 7.0 on Solaris 9 (why we have two
Networker
> servers is a long story that isn't relevant to the matter at hand.)
Each
> Networker server is responsible for backing up one of these clusters.
> 
> The clients we have defined in Networker are:
> 
>   physical1.its.monash.edu (aliases "physical1",
>       "physical1.its.monash.edu.au", "physical1.its.monash.edu", and
>       "physical1.virtual.local")
>   physical2.its.monash.edu (aliases "physical2",
>       "physical2.its.monash.edu.au", "physical2.its.monash.edu", and
>       "physical2.virtual.local")
>   virtual-sql.its.monash.edu (aliases "virtual-sql",
>       "virtual-sql.its.monash.edu", and
"virtual-sql.its.monash.edu.au")
>   virtual.its.monash.edu (aliases "virtual", "virtual.its.monash.edu",
>       "virtual.its.monash.edu.au", and "virtual-cluster")
> 
> Now, the problem itself (having defined the environment, hopefully
with
> enough detail):
> 
> With this setup, my expectation is that each physical client will
backup
> its drive C:, S:, and other, node-specific data (SYSTEM DB:, SYSTEM
> FILES:, and SYSTEM STATE:, as Networker defines them). The virtual
> clients would back up their appropriate shared drive (E: in the case
of
> virtual-sql, Q: in the case of virtual).
> 
> What I'm _actually_ seeing is Networker backing up the shared drives
as
> part of the backup of the physical node.
> 
> In other words, if virtual and virtual-sql happen to currently be
hosted
> by physical1, I will see physical2 backup drives C: and S: (as
> expected), and physical1 backup drives C:, E:, Q:, and S:. The virtual
> hosts are both failing with the error, "nothing to save".
> 
> Does anybody have any suggestions? I've tried changing the virtual
hosts
> to point to "VIRTUAL-CLUSTER" and "VIRTUAL-SQL" (in the hope that it
was
> a string comparison on the client failing somehow), creating an entry
in
> /etc/hosts for these addresses, but with no success. As somebody who
has
> very little hands-on experience with clustering in general, let alone
> Windows clustering, I'm not sure how best to solve this one.
> 
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