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Re: [ADSM-L] Question concerning large filepools on HP EVA

2011-12-07 10:06:33
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Question concerning large filepools on HP EVA
From: Howard Coles <Howard.Coles AT ARDENTHEALTH DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 14:58:51 +0000
We run the XIV from IBM, which is similar, hardware wise, and we have just 
about everything running on it, TSM, Oracle, SQL Server, File servers, other 
app servers, etc.

I would say that if your enterprise storage can't handle enterprise load levels 
there's a problem, and it's not with TSM.  I would demand the HP rep that sold 
you the device either refund your money, or show you the documentation on load 
levels the box was covered for.  I'm sure, if you're like us, you spent way too 
much money on this thing for it to be sitting Idle.  And, if they didn't 
properly represent it to you as being unable to handle certain loads, they are 
liable.


See Ya'
Howard Coles Jr.
John 3:16!

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Christian Svensson
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:39 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] SV: Question concerning large filepools on HP EVA

Hi Daniel,
I have a HP EVA user that are leaving HP because of similar issues, but they 
have seen it in a different situation. (outside TSM).

About your file class issue. Have you run a q content on does volumes and 
verify that does are really empty so it doesn't contain a pointer.
Also check if you haven't used all scratch volumes in your file pool so it 
can't reclaim does volumes.


Best Regards
Christian Svensson

Cell: +46-70-325 1577
E-mail: Christian.Svensson AT cristie DOT se
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Från: Daniel Sparrman [daniel.sparrman AT EXIST DOT SE]
Skickat: den 7 december 2011 14:55
Till: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Ämne: Question concerning large filepools on HP EVA

Hi

We have a customer running TSM with a large (+130TB) HP EVA 64000 as a large 
filepool (multi-directory). After a few months, they got problems with disks 
breaking down in the EVA box, ending up having raidarrays in almost a constant 
state of rebuild. After talking to HP, the advice they got was to try to reduce 
the load on the box since it shouldnt be used more than 30% of the time during 
24 hours.

Initially, the customer used deduplication on the box which probably put even 
more stress on it, but this is now turned off. The problem still exists however.

Has anyone else had issues with large diskboxes in combination with file device 
pools? According to HP, this is due to the high amount of I/O that TSM 
produces, but I've seen non-SATA boxes handle alot more I/O than this. So the 
question is, is it because of the use of SATA drives, or is this a problem with 
just this model/box?

The box is equipped with 1TB HP labeled S-ATA disks and the customer has a 
small SAS-based diskbox to handle daily backups and then migrates to the HP EVA 
box. Data is then backed up to a remote LTO-based tape library.

Another problem related to the same pool is that file device volumes that has 
been reclaimed (0.0% usage) is not returned as scratch and deleted, but is held 
within the storage pool as a volume with 0.0% usage. Anyone know of any related 
issues with file device volumes not being deleted?

Customer is at v6.2 on RedHat Enterprise Linux, and we've checked permissions 
on both directories and files of the file device volumes, aswell as the TSM 
activity log, but cannot see any relevant issues.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman



Daniel Sparrman
Exist i Stockholm AB
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