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Re: [ADSM-L] vtl versus file systems for pirmary pool

2011-09-27 07:33:04
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] vtl versus file systems for pirmary pool
From: Richard Rhodes <rrhodes AT FIRSTENERGYCORP DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:29:53 -0400
A while back I did some searching in to NFS file pool for LanFree storge
agents.  I figured that since Sanergy was using NFS for setup but sending
data across FC, that TSM should have to support NFS directly.  I found a
comment  in the TSM manuals (v5.5) that IBM does not support NFS for
LanFree access (even if it works).

Rick





From:   Shawn Drew <shawn.drew AT AMERICAS.BNPPARIBAS DOT COM>
To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date:   09/26/2011 06:11 PM
Subject:        Re: vtl versus file systems for pirmary pool
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Although you can do "server-free" backups over IP without a VTL by
creating a shared "file library".

If you are using a file device class on an NFS system (such as data domain
or the like), you can have storage agents mount the filesystems directly
and write to it without going through the TSM Server.    I accidentally
discovered this when I created a File dev class and set "shared=yes". Took
a while to figure out what happened.
If you have 10g NFS connections, might be worth looking into.  (I just
accidentally did it, I don't actually use it in production)

Check out the following for more info, about half-way down.:
Storage Manager for AIX Server 5.5> Administrator's Guide > Configuring
and Managing Server Storage > Chapter 9. Defining Device Classes >
Defining and Updating Device Classes for Sequential Media

Regards,
Shawn
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The one drop-dead difference is that if you want to do LAN-Free, the
target has to be a tape (or tape-emulating) device.
Can't use TSM filepools.

If you replicate between VTL's, it's transparent to TSM, but you have to
have the same vendor hardware at both sites.
Dedup may also be faster with a VTL, if your VTL does it in-line.
Also a VTL is often quicker to set up (which doesn't necessarily mean it
is easier to maintain, if you consider firmware updates, multiple
maintenance contracts, etc.)


TSM 6.2 has to dedup as part of the reclaim process,
post-data-landing-there. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's just a
different way.
To get replication of the deduped data, you have to set up a second/copy
pool yourself; but it does not have to be the same hardware on both ends.

There is nothing about having a VTL/VTL gateway that inherently means you
can do fewer concurrent backups than with a TSM filepool,  depends on your
hardware.  You can have a fast VTL or a slow crappy VTL, just depends on
what you pay for...





-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 4:05 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] vtl versus file systems for pirmary pool

What advantage does VTL emulation on a disk primary storage pool have

as compared to disk storage pool that is non vtl ?



It appears to me that a non vtl system would not require the daily
reclamation process

and also allow for more client backups to occur simultaneously.



Thanks,



Tim Brown
Systems Specialist - Project Leader
Central Hudson Gas & Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: tbrown AT cenhud DOT com <<mailto:tbrown AT cenhud DOT com>>
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