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Re: [ADSM-L] tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 09:29:31
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tsm and data domain
From: PAC Brion Arnaud <Arnaud.Brion AT PANALPINA DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:24:27 +0200
Hi Richard,

Thanks for the info,  I'll have a closer look at this !

Cheers.

Arnaud

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-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Cowen, Richard
Sent: Friday, 17 June, 2011 15:15
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: tsm and data domain

Brian,

The DD has dedup by volume.  If you lookup the contents of a volume on TSM, you 
can get an feeling for how dedup varies.
The resulting information is "approximate", due to the fact some of the data on 
a DD volume has "expired" from TSM's point of view, and will not show up in the 
volumeusage table (I don't think.)  Also, the first copy of any "chunk" will 
have a dedup ratio of 1.
 

filesys show compression /backup/vtc/*/*

/backup/vtc/Default/N00022L3:
 mtime: 1302728324652916847,
 bytes: 47,868,905,726,
 g_comp: 47,521,219,818,
 l_comp: 8,403,079,871,
 meta-data: 154,714,124,
 bytes/storage_used: 5.6

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
PAC Brion Arnaud
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 3:11 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tsm and data domain

Tim,

We are right  conducting a POC with  a pair of DD860, and are relatively 
satisfied with them.  The machines are mostly used as VTL except for a small 
NFS partition which is used or TSM DB backups.
Deduplication rate is OK : around 10 so far, with a good mix of Exchange, 
Oracle, DB2 as well as Win and AIX data.
Ingestion rate is corresponding to our needs, slightly more than  1 GB/s , and 
the possibility to define plenty drives.

Negative or "no so impressive"  points, so far :  deduplication rate is a 
"global" factor, impossible to know what type of data dedupes better than 
another one, thus lowering the granularity of deduplication monitoring . 
We also experienced pretty long initialization times for the TSM server 
attached to a virtual library having 100 drives : at restart  TSM server needs 
at least 15 minutes to recognize all the drives, thus generating numerous 
client errors, as  they try to get a drive which is defined but not available. 
We still have to experiment if defining more smaller libraries would solve that 
issue ... 
At least replication :  it is still unclear  for me what would be happening if 
we do rely on replication to replace copy storage pools, and if our TSM  server 
crashes on primary site while replication is not completed. To my mind the 
virtual volumes contents would not be matching TSM DB content : not sure so far 
on how to handle such a situation ...

Hope this helped !

Cheers

Arnaud

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Direct: +41 (61) 226 19 78
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-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Tim Brown
Sent: Thursday, 16 June, 2011 21:50
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: tsm and data domain

Any one use emc's data domain devices for storage pools and replication

Would like to here positive and negative issues.



Thanks,



Tim Brown
Systems Specialist - Project Leader
Central Hudson Gas & Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: tbrown AT cenhud DOT com <<mailto:tbrown AT cenhud DOT com>>
Phone: 845-486-5643
Fax: 845-486-5921
Cell: 845-235-4255




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