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Re: [ADSM-L] Upgrading paht from TSM 5.5 to 6.1

2010-09-03 12:05:34
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Upgrading paht from TSM 5.5 to 6.1
From: "Prather, Wanda" <wPrather AT ICFI DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 15:09:06 +0000
Yep, just specify MERGE=YES.
However, I'd do it the other way, because if you point a client to a new empty 
DB, remember you'll get a full backup of that client.
Then when you export from 5.5 to 6.2, you will likely bring over extra copies 
of files that haven't changed.  
If you are managing retention based on days, the downside is just time and 
annoyance.  But for sites that manage based on versions (not recommended, but 
people still do it) it can bump your version counts.

To avoid that, do the export from 5.5 to 6.2 while the client is still pointing 
to the 5.5 server.
When the export is complete, then every day on the 5.5 server, schedule:  
export node blah filedata=all  fromdate=today-1 fromtime=now todate=today 
totime=now merge=yes

That brings across everything that the client is backing up to 5.5 daily and 
keeps 6.2 in sync until you are ready to repoint the client.

You can do lots of clever things with export now; for instance if the export is 
so huge you think it will take days, do it a couple month's worth at a time:  
export node blah  fromdate=01/01/2009 todate=03/31/2009 merge=yes etc.  Repeat 
and adjust until you get a feel for what time interval is good for you based on 
your housekeeping schedule, tape drive availability, etc.  



-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
David E Ehresman
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:02 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Upgrading paht from TSM 5.5 to 6.1

Wanda,
 
Can you do a ""incremental" import/export" to a 6.2 server after pointing 
clients to an new empty DB and running for awhile?
 
David

>>> "Prather, Wanda" <wPrather AT ICFI DOT COM> 9/2/2010 11:01 AM >>>
It's a judgement call.
Tivoli's estimate for doing the DB conversion/upgrade from 5.5 to 6.2 is to 
assume you'll get 5GB per hour.
If your hardware is really fast, you might get  7-10 GB per hour.

So doing the conversion is problematic, and what works well at small sites 
isn't necessarily practical at large sites.  If you do a direct conversion from 
5.5 to 6.2,  you'll have to shut down your TSM server, and sit and wait for 
many hours while the conversion runs.  And if your DB is very old, I have 
talked to one person who tried the conversion and it hit some bad record in the 
DB and quit.  So it's bring the old TSM back up, wait until the next weekend, 
try again..repeat.

Using a new TSM instance an doing export/import has the benefit of letting you 
do a few clients at a time, while you get used to 6.2.
For customers whose data has a very short retention time, you can even just 
point the clients to the new 6.2 server and let the old data expire.  And if 
you have had problems reading your tapes in the past, now is certainly the best 
time to clean them up by doing a refresh as you move to the new server.

But in your case, reading/writing 2000 tapes may also be prohibitively 
time-consuming.  You could try doing an export of a large client to tape, 
rename the client on your TSM server, then re-import it to get estimates of how 
long it would take you. (Even if you go with export/import, doing it 
server-to-server via TCP/IP is better than doing it via tape exports.) 

There is a way of doing a "hybrid" conversion - you dump your TSM data base, 
leave the old server running, do the conversion offline to a new 6.2 server no 
matter how long that takes, then use "incremental" import/export via 
server-to-server TCP/IP to get the 2 servers back in sync before cutting over 
to the new server.

So you'll need to make your choice based on how long it will take you, how easy 
it is for you to get downtime for your TSM server, cost, hardware availability, 
etc. 
   
W
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Alain Richard
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 10:34 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] RE : Upgrading paht from TSM 5.5 to 6.1

Our TSM 5.5 database is little more than 100GB (6 X 20GB at 83% full)


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Prather, Wanda
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How big is your TSM 5.5 data base?

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Alain Richard
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:57 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Upgrading paht from TSM 5.5 to 6.1

Hi,

To make the upgrade from TSM 5.5 to 6.1, our "reseller support" tell us that 
they prefer to do a fresh install of tsm v6.1 and import all tape written by 
tsm 5.5 so all the tape will be now written by TSM 6.1. They tell us it will be 
safer that way. We have more than 2000 tapes to import.

That way to upgrade look weird to me. Can you comment on that?
Should I ask another opinion before let them go that way and pay for that?

al