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Re: [ADSM-L] Incremental and Full VM backups - no TSM client installed

2010-08-05 10:53:35
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Incremental and Full VM backups - no TSM client installed
From: "Storer, Raymond" <storerr AT NIBCO DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 10:51:16 -0400
Tim, yes; you can use the VMware disk mount utility to mount a VMDK file to 
retrieve client files from it. When you do, Windows just sees the VMDK as 
another hard drive on the local system. You can then use Windows Explorer to 
copy whatever you want from the VMDK.

Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Timothy Hughes
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:36 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Incremental and Full VM backups - no TSM client installed

  Ray thanks, I think you really answered it  especially with the following 
lines.


If file level restore is something the application/data owner for a particular 
VM desires I'd strongly recommend using the TSM client inside that VM to 
perform backups as you would any other physical server.
Recovering client files from a VCB backup is a pain.

We were ask to  start doing Incremental/Full VM backups on a server that was 
backing up on a different TSM Server  than the VCB Proxy Machine.
Now normally we would just dissociate the node and it node to that TSM Server 
that the VCB proxy machine is on no problem. However this node (and two nodes 
others)  is also on a different network tier. So unable to use the  TSM client 
we get that tcpip communications failure between the client and server machine 
message"  when we try to use the GUI wizard to continue configuring the TSM 
client and the following

C:\Program Files\tivoli\TSM\baclient>dsmc I Node Name: SIJ409 ANS1017E Session 
rejected: TCP/IP connection failure


So when Recovering client files from a VCB without the TSM Client this tool 
would be used correct?

http://downloads.vmware.com/d/details/disk_mount_utility_5_5_driver_tools/JSp=iZGR0cGJkcCo=
)

Tim

On 8/5/2010 9:15 AM, Storer, Raymond wrote:
> Tim, I'm not certain what you are trying to achieve. So, I will state what I 
> understand you are trying to do and perhaps you can fill in my gaps of 
> understanding in your reply.
>
> You have a VMware ESX host (at least one) with one or more VMs on it in which 
> you wish to perform Full VM backups using TSM client and VCB on a  VCB Proxy 
> machine. So, you schedule a VCB backup of your VM(s) and VCBMOUNTER copies 
> the various VMDKs etc files to your VCB Proxy machine. Then, the TSM client 
> on the VCB Proxy machine sends those files to TSM. At a later date you 
> discover you'd like to restore either the entire VM or certain files within 
> the VM. So, you use TSM client on the VCB Proxy to retrieve the entire set of 
> VMDK and other files that comprise that VM and save them to your VCB Proxy 
> machine. If you are restoring the entire machine, you could use VMware's 
> converter or VCBRestore to send the restored VMDKs etc to the ESX host and 
> you are done. (You cannot just copy the restored files to ESX and expect them 
> to run, they will not.) If you are restoring a client file or multiple files 
> in the VM, you must use a tool (e.g. VMware's disk-mount - 
> http://downloads.vmware.com/d/details/disk_mount_utility_5_5_driver_tools/JSpiZGR0cGJkcCo=
>  ) to mount the restored VMDKs on the VCB Proxy, peruse the newly mounted 
> drive, and copy the file(s) you want to the currently running VM.
>
> If file level restore is something the application/data owner for a 
> particular VM desires I'd strongly recommend using the TSM client inside that 
> VM to perform backups as you would any other physical server. Recovering 
> client files from a VCB backup is a pain.
>
> What am I missing, Tim?
>
> Ray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
> Of Timothy Hughes
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 4:56 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Incremental and Full VM backups - no TSM client
> installed
>
>    Ray Thanks,
>
> Yes this helps, What about the "normal" TSM backup client files not
> the "VM\VCB" files will this work with restoring them even though no
> client is installed? (I hope this doesn't confuse you)
>
> I may be the one who is confused  I picture the vm/vcb  files being separate 
> from the normal TSM Client Backup files.
>
> thanks again!
>
>
> On 8/4/2010 3:12 PM, Storer, Raymond wrote:
>> Tim, do you mean you are performing VCB backups of guest machines and you 
>> want to restore a specific file from one of those backups? If so, you can 
>> mount the VMDK files once you restore them to your VCB proxy computer. I 
>> don't have the link, but you can search VMware's web site on VCB backup and 
>> restore.
>>
>> I also found this new tool (which I have *no* experience with):
>> http://www.vmxbuilder.com/vmware-diskmount-gui/
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
>> Of Timothy Hughes
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 2:30 PM
>> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Incremental and Full VM backups - no TSM client
>> installed
>>
>>     Steve thanks,
>>
>> Do you know if there are any instructions/manuals on how to do this without 
>> the Client installed?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On 8/3/2010 3:32 PM, Schaub, Steve wrote:
>>> No, but I'm using the Storserver for VCB Agent, which makes it pretty easy.
>>>
>>> Steve Schaub
>>> Systems Engineer II, Windows
>>> BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On
>>> Behalf Of Timothy Hughes
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:58 PM
>>> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>>> Subject: [ADSM-L] Incremental and Full VM backups - no TSM client
>>> installed
>>>
>>>      Hello All,
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any issues/problems  with doing file-level restores
>>> without the TSM Client installed?
>>>
>>>
>>> TSM version 6.2
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for any comments in advance!
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