Steve, no, these are not Java apps.
Of course, until there is a trace to see where the delay comes from, I
cannot say for sure... but one of the things that the backup-archive client
does, that the other components do not do, is initialize VSS and build the
VSS exclude list (files that VSS says to exclude from backup). And it is
there that my suspicion lies. If my guess is correct, then this is probably
a VSS issue, not TSM (per se).
Best regards,
Andy
Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
Level 3 Team Lead
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com
IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html
The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU> wrote on 02/12/2009
05:28:40 PM:
> [image removed]
>
> Re: TSM Client GUI hanging at initializing
>
> Steve Stackwick
>
> to:
>
> ADSM-L
>
> 02/12/2009 05:48 PM
>
> Sent by:
>
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>
> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
>
> Thanks, Andy.
>
> I've done as you said and started the GUI. Interestingly, I've installed
the
> TDP for SQL and, using the dsmcutil tool, a service for the BAClient and
the
> SQL Server TDP. They both installed and contacted the server OK, so maybe
> I'll get backups even if I can't run the client tools locally.
>
> Question: are dsmc and dsm java apps? Could that be the problem?
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Raibeck <storman AT us.ibm DOT com>
wrote:
>
> > My guess is that the slow startup is VSS-related.
> >
> > Try adding this to your options file:
> >
> > traceflags service
> > tracefile c:\somefilename
> >
> > (you can name the trace file whatever you want, enclose in double
quotes if
> > the file name contains blanks)
> >
> > Then start dsmc and wait for the prompt to appear.
> >
> > After you get the prompt, quit out of the client.
> >
> > Then look in the trace... while much of it might not make sense, what
you
> > want to focus on is the time stamps that begin each line of trace
output.
> > Look for a large gap between two trace lines, which would indicate at
that
> > point in the trace, the client attempted to call some function and
> > experienced a delay.
> >
> > Alternatively, it might not be one big time gap, but lots of smaller
(but
> > not insignificant) gaps in time.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > Andy Raibeck
> > IBM Software Group
> > Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
> > Level 3 Team Lead
> > Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
> > Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com
> >
> > IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
> >
> > http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/
> IBMTivoliStorageManager.html
> >
> >
> > The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
> > The command line is your friend.
> > "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
> >
> > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU> wrote on 02/12/2009
> > 05:07:55 PM:
> >
> > > Re: TSM Client GUI hanging at initializing
> > >
> > > Steve Stackwick
> > >
> > > to:
> > >
> > > ADSM-L
> > >
> > > 02/12/2009 05:09 PM
> > >
> > > Sent by:
> > >
> > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
> > >
> > > Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
> > >
> > > Note that, on the same machine, I just installed the SQL Server TDP
and
> > it
> > > works just fine, connects to the TSM server, backs up, etc. This has
got
> > to
> > > be a client bug.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Thomas Denier <
> > > Thomas.Denier AT jeffersonhospital DOT org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > -----Steve Stackwick wrote: -----
> > > >
> > > > >I have a W2K3 SP2 32bit server whose brand new TSM 5.5.1 client
> > > > >install is behaving peculiarly. The GUI hangs at Initializing
> > > > >(though it does start after a *LONG* time), the command line hangs
> > > > >at an open window, likewise.
> > > > >The usual suspects: this is not a cluster, and the admin sez he
> > > > >tried to apply the VSS fix and was told it was superseded by what
> > > > >was already on the machine. Any clues?
> > > >
> > > > Is there any chance that the DNS servers are specificed incorrectly
> > > > and you are waiting for a succession of queries to time out? The
> > > > quick test for this is to specify the server address in dotted
> > > > decimal form. This eliminates any dependence on DNS, and hence
> > > > will eliminate the delay if it is due to DNS problems.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Stephen Stackwick
> > > Jacob & Sundstrom, Inc.
> > > 401 East Pratt St., Suite 2214
> > > Baltimore, MD 21202-3003
> > > (410) 539-1135 * (866) 539-1135
> > > sstackwick AT jasi DOT com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Stephen Stackwick
> Jacob & Sundstrom, Inc.
> 401 East Pratt St., Suite 2214
> Baltimore, MD 21202-3003
> (410) 539-1135 * (866) 539-1135
> sstackwick AT jasi DOT com
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