Here's where I could see this being true:
You have an active/active cluster of VMware servers that each run a few
VMs and receive other VMs in the event of a failure.  

Where this would NOT be true:
You have 1 VMware server that runs all the vms, and another that's in
standby mode.

If your "rep" told you that you have to license the inactive node in
case 2, you need a new rep.

Not only that, but if you have SQL Server running on one of them, you
only have to pay for the VMware cores that are actively running SQL
Server Data Protection.  Meaning in an active/passive situation of a
cluster you only pay for the processors that are active (unless the
passive machine has more procs, then you'd want to license it).  So, in
a VMware situation you only pay for the VMware server running SQL
Server.

Just because it "can" run on the other machine doesn't mean it "can" run
on both at the same time.

See Ya'
Howard


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
> Of Kevin Boatright
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:59 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey
> 
>  We were told by our IBM rep that we had to license each ESX host that
> could possibility host the virtual machine.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> >>> Howard Coles <Howard.Coles AT ARDENTHEALTH DOT COM> 09/29/08 2:40 PM >>>
> Steve's response does make more sense, due to the fact that you are
> backing up the VMware server, not just the VCB, and not licensing the
> VMware host would cut seriously into IBM's profits.  However, I'd like
> to think Kelly's is true and I've heard that from more than one
person.
> 
> See Ya'
> Howard
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On
Behalf
> > Of Schaub, Steve
> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:35 PM
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey
> >
> > That depends on who you talk to - some Tivoli reps will say that the
> > VMWare host cores need licenses as well.
> > -steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On
Behalf
> > Of
> > Kelly Lipp
> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:23 AM
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey
> >
> > The license for the TSM client in this case is based upon the VCB
> proxy
> > server running the TSM client.
> >
> > Kelly Lipp
> > ________________________________________
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
> > Schaub, Steve [steve_schaub AT BCBST DOT COM]
> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:08 AM
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey
> >
> > FYI - the waters get even murkier when you start down the VCB path.
> >
> > Try posing this scenario to your Tivoli rep: all VMWare guest
backups
> > have been offloaded to VCB proxy servers, and the TSM client has
been
> > uninstalled from the guests.  No TSM software exists on the VM hosts
> at
> > all.
> >
> > Now ask them which physical cores need to be counted for Tivoli
> > licensing - the answer may surprise you.
> >
> > Steve Schaub
> > Systems Engineer, Windows
> > Blue Cross Blue Shield of Tennessee
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> > 423-785-7347 (mobile)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On
Behalf
> > Of
> > cpreston
> > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 1:06 AM
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey
> >
> > Wanda Prather wrote:
> > > Licensing is by physical cores.  Throw up as many VM clients as
you
> > want; you still just pay for the cpus (cores) on the physical box.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Just to be clear -- that includes TDP licenses?  There was a
question
> > today on the list ( http://tinyurl.com/47zjbe ) where at least one
of
> > the answers seemed the opposite of what you're saying, and another
> said
> > "nobody knows."
> >
> > I speak about VMware backups, and so I get asked this a lot.  I just
> > want to make sure my answer is dead on.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> >
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