I just got back from Sterling Forest, NY. We did a small D/R test on our
system. We started using VCB to backup or VM's and today I think we decided
to try another method or a combination. I'm just the TSM-guy and didn't
realize that to recover a VM is a 2-step process. You first restore the
file(s) from TSM to the VCB server. Then you have to copy/convert them back
over to the VMware storage. As an example...we have a fairly large SQLServer
box and the image was 180GB. It took just over an hour to restore it from
TSM, but then the conversion/copy process was going to take another 2+
hours. We also did a small 16GB VM and that only took 25-min to
convert/copy. Maybe 3-4 hours for a recovery is acceptable, but we felt not.

We will be investigating other avenues to backup or VM's. Maybe use VCB for
the smaller ones and revert back to the other method of using the API and
backing them up from the VMware console.


Bill Boyer
" INDECISION is the key to FLEXIBILITY." - ??



-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Kelly Lipp
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:56 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

And if Wanda confirms what I say, I know I'm right!

BTW, adoption rates of folks using TSM for VMware are higher at this point
based on response to our agent.  That is good.  If many folks use TSM to
backup VMware we'll see more development from IBM to make this even better.

Kelly Lipp
CTO
STORServer, Inc.
485-B Elkton Drive
Colorado Springs, CO 80907
719-266-8777
www.storserver.com


-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Wanda Prather
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 8:49 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey


One; licensing is by physical cores.  Throw up as many VM clients as you
want; you still just pay for the cpus (cores) on the physical box.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:18 PM, cpreston
<tsm-forum AT backupcentral DOT com>wrote:

> Kelly Lipp wrote:
> >
> >
> > Most folks are using the TSM Client/Agent within the VM to do backups.
> > Cool and you have to love the licensing on that: one client/agent
> > license (with the appropriate cores figured, naturally) per ESX Server.
> > VMs don't crap out often so DR is minimal, but it is relatively
> > straightforward: rebuild the VM and then reconstitute it with data from
> > TSM.
> >
> >
>
>
> Kelly,
>
> What about TDP licensing in this model?  Is IBM licensing those via
> physical or virtual CPUs?  (e.g.  Assuming 5 Oracle servers running inside
> VMs on a single-CPU ESX box, am I paying for one CPU or FIVE CPUs?)
>
> TIA
>
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