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Re: [ADSM-L] How to schedule dsmc for "always backup'

2008-02-20 13:14:44
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] How to schedule dsmc for "always backup'
From: William Boyer <bjdboyer AT COMCAST DOT NET>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:14:03 -0500
Active Data Pools? Or maybe IMAGE backups? IMAGE backup would probably be the 
faster restore/recovery and is only a single object to
TSM.

Bill Boyer
"An optomist is just a pessimist with no job experience" - Scott Adams


-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Orville Lantto
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:00 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: How to schedule dsmc for "always backup'

Another good reason for 'Full' backups is to facilitate quick restores.  I do 
this for systems prior to Websphere updates and for
other 'fragile' systems.  Collocation is nice, but having the entire current 
system on disk, or on a single tape, is better.

Orville L. Lantto

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Nicholas Rodolfich
Sent: Wed 2/20/2008 11:33
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] How to schedule dsmc for "always backup'



The Windows admin replaced the hardware and wanted to make sure that everything 
got backed up.

The node is on a schedule with 100 other nodes.

Thanks to Richard Sims who had several solutions. I used the rename filespace 
option on the server. When I can, I like to control
things from the server.

This should work well and allow us to keep the old and new data separate so we 
can remove the old data after a week or so. I had
thought that they imaged the box somehow to do the move but they actually 
renamed an existing server so all of the files would have
been "changed" anyway when TSM inspected them.

Thanks to everyone for all your help and brain power!!!!

Nicholas Rodolfich
Network Administrator (AIX)
East Jefferson General Hospital
504-883-6955 (office)
228-223-1187 (mobile)
nrodolfich AT ejgh DOT org


>>> storman AT US.IBM DOT COM 2/20/2008 11:18 AM >>>
I agree with using MODE=ABSOLUTE to do this, rather than SELECTIVE.

Has the requester articulated the "why" behind this requirement? If not, I 
would question the rationale for the requirement. TSM's
incremental approach is one of its strengths. Backing up everything (presumably 
every day?), even if it hasn't changed, will:

- consume more storage pool, server database space, and other TSM server 
resources (like longer backup sessions, etc)

- cause more network traffic

- increase backup run-time

- impact the ability to restore older unique versions of files that are rolled 
off by duplicate backups versions (depends on how you
configure the version and retention settings)

Best regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal 
Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet
e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html



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"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU> wrote on 2008-02-20
09:51:00:

> Yes, but then you need to specify the OBJECTS='' to tell the client
> WHAT to SELectively backup. Only Incremental backups work with the
> DOMAIN, plus SEL doesn't do the SYSTEMobject/state/services.
>
> Put this node in a domain where the mgmtclass is set for MODE=ABSOLUTE
> instead of the default of MODIFIED. Then your backups
are
> just incremental, use the DOMAIN, but will always backup.
>
> Bill Boyer
> Tell me again how lucky I am to be working here...I keep forgetting!
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> -----Original Message-----
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> update schedule 'domain_name'  'schedule_name'  action=selective
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> Bill
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> Hello All,
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> Thanks for your help!!
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> One of my Windows server admins wants to schedule an "always backup"
> so the system will backup everything but we could not find a syntax
> diagram that included the option from the command line. Does anyone
> know where I can find this info or have a trick that we could use to
> make this happen. The user's guide has a list of options to dsmc
> backup but there is not one for the "always backup"
>
> Nicholas Rodolfich
> Network Administrator (AIX)
> East Jefferson General Hospital
> 504-883-6955 (office)
> 228-223-1187 (mobile)
> nrodolfich AT ejgh DOT org
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