Re: [ADSM-L] TSM vs. Legato Networker Comparison

No doubt.

Cost was purely our reason, and I agree with everything else you said. IBM
freaked out and came back with a drastically reduced price. So at this point,
I'm probably doing "due diligence", but to my face they are saying that we
may still replace our backup software, so rock-fetching I will go until told
otherwise. <pant-pant-pant> RUFF!

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Kelly Lipp
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 1:01 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM vs. Legato Networker Comparison

And besides cost, is there any apparent technical reason to undertake
such a thing in the first place?  I.e., are you or your management in
some way unhappy with the backup processing?  Again, except for the
cost?

I also think there is a golden opportunity to work with your current
backup vendor to get the cost for you inline with what the proposed
competition is offering.  Doing this may forestall the entire rock fetch
you've been asked to undertake.

The real funny thing is that at the end of the day, the cost (when done
over a period of years rather than a single purchase) will be nearly
identical no matter which vendor you choose.  But you will have been
through the rock fetch, and perhaps a painful migration only to learn
this simple fact.  If only management (who should know better than to
waste valuable time and money) understood this before sending us poor
technical slobs on the mission... 


Kelly J. Lipp
VP Manufacturing & CTO
STORServer, Inc.
485-B Elkton Drive
Colorado Springs, CO 80907
719-266-8777
lipp AT storserver DOT com

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Bell, Charles (Chip)
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:18 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM vs. Legato Networker Comparison

Interesting. We are doing the same thing, but with multiple vendors, for
the EXACT same reason you are. We are generating a single RFI that we
will send to each vendor, and get our comparison that way. Not done yet,
and I'm not looking forward to it. I like TSM as a product, and I'm not
looking forward to a possible migration, 'cause like you said, there
will be a cost associated with it (more media/drives?, hardware, fill in
the blank).

We are supposed to be talking with EMC soon, and have already talked to
CommVault, BakBone, Syncsort, and Symantec.

Good luck with that.  :)

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Schneider, John
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:55 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM vs. Legato Networker Comparison

Greetings,
        We have been a TSM shop for many years, but EMC came to our
management with a proposal to replace our TSM licenses with Legato
Networker, at a better price than what we are paying for TSM today.
This came right on the heels of paying our large TSM license bill, and
so it got management's attention.
        We have an infrastructure of 15 TSM servers and about 1000
clients, so this would be a large and painful migration.  It would also
require a great deal of new hardware and consultant costs during the
migration, which would detract from the cost savings.
        So instead of jumping from one backup product to another based
on price alone, we have been asked to do an evaluation between the two
products.  Do any of you have any feature comparisons between the two
products that would give me a head start?  


Best Regards,

John D. Schneider
Email:  schnjd AT stlo.mercy DOT net

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