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Re: Journal Based Backups

2006-06-13 14:30:58
Subject: Re: Journal Based Backups
From: Shawn Malone <shawnm1964 AT YAHOO DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:30:34 -0700
All,

Thank you all for your comments.

For the most part all of our backups and schedules
complete in an acceptable time period.  We do have
some clients which run long and this is another reason
that I thought I would look into JBB as maybe a
solution.

Shawn

--- Andrew Raibeck <storman AT US.IBM DOT COM> wrote:

> In general, the first thing I would ask before
> recommending ANY new
> feature is, do you NEED the feature? Adding a new
> feature to a system
> means one more level of complexity, and thus one
> more area for things to
> go wrong. As a wise person once said, "if it ain't
> broke, don't fix it".
> 
> So... in the spirit of the foregoing, do you NEED
> journal-based backup? In
> other words:
> 
> - Do your backups currently complete in an
> unacceptable time frame? and...
> 
> - Is most of that time spent in scanning the file
> system(s), but not
> actually backing anything up? (The scan time for
> 400,000 files would not
> normally seem prohibitive to me.)
> 
> If the answer to either or both questions for a
> given machine is "no",
> then I would not recommend implementing
> journal-based backup on that
> machine.
> 
> My two cents.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Andy
> 
> Andy Raibeck
> IBM Software Group
> Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
> Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew
> Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
> Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com
> 
> IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
>
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html
> 
> The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
> The command line is your friend.
> "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
> 
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
> wrote on 06/13/2006
> 04:27:43:
> 
> > I wanted to start a discussion on the advantages
> and
> > disadvantages of Journal Based Backups for Windows
> > Servers.
> >
> >   We currently run TSM 5.3 on an AIX platform and
> have
> > a subset group who administer the TSM Clients on
> the
> > windows servers.  They have been hesitant to turn
> > Journal Based Backups on because of past issues.
> >
> >   From what I have seen prior to TSM 5.3 there
> were a
> > number of issues with JBB, however, since 5.3
> there
> > have been changes which have fixed prior issues,
> such
> > as sessions hanging, disconnects etc...
> >
> >   I just attended a class for TSM in which the
> > instructor said the only overhead on the client
> was
> > about 10MB, the size of the file which houses the
> > directory entries.
> >
> >   So my question to this list is, those of you who
> > utilize JBB is what have you seen as being an
> > advantages and disadvantages of this feature?
> >
> >   I would like to put together a document which I
> can
> > present to the Windows Administrators to move them
> > towards Journal Based Backups on clients which
> have
> > more than 400,000 files.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Shawn Malone
> 

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