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Re: Windows server imaging

2005-07-27 19:15:32
Subject: Re: Windows server imaging
From: TSM_User <tsm_user AT YAHOO DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:15:23 -0700
What partition information are you talking about. Are you refereing to the 
steps where it has you run diskpart?
 
Those aren't that complicated and most Windows admins know how to setup 
partitions with diskpart. I would bet those that don't won't undertake the 
WinPE restore to begin with.
 
K

Egon Blouder <egonle AT NETSCAPE DOT NET> wrote:
Hi,

one major problem I have/see in using 1) is the lack of restore of partition 
information. That has to be done manually. IMHO that should be a few lines of 
code that must Tivoli add to TSM.

Regards,
..--

TSM_User wrote:

>Opps, below I said "you can" get disimilar hardware to work with ASR.  I meant 
>you can't.
>
>Sorry.
>
>TSM_User wrote:
>1) You can use TSM to run an online image backup. Then TSM and WinPE to create 
>an offline image restore.
>
>2) You can use ASR.
>
>3) You can simply use the Install OS, Install Client, Restore system state, 
>then restore OS drive.
>
>You can get ASR to work with dissimilar hardware but you can run through an 
>In-Place upgrade after the image restore or after the regular restore. It is a 
>seperate mini install that you run after the restore from the MS installation 
>media. Basically it re-enumarates the hardware but leaves all the software 
>intact so your not prompted for server name, key and stuff like that the 
>second time around. I've used this method to go from old MCP motherboards to 
>new ACPI. I've went from single processor machines to dual. From one raid 
>controller to another. It all works.
>
>I have nothing against Cristie. I'll just say that when you go through the 
>process using the In-Place upgrade it is hard to justify the cost per server 
>to save a few hours. If Cristie was $25 US per server then I'd recommend you 
>get it for every server in your shop. But I belive the cost is many $100's 
>which I can't justify when the manual process works so well and only hads 5 
>minutes of work time and about 1.5 hours to the restore.
>
>Kyle
>
>
>
>
>"Prather, Wanda" wrote:
>My 2 cents:
>
>TSM recovery with Windows ASR (WIn2K3 and XP only, not Win2K) is
>terrific, because
>1) you don't have to create images ahead of time
>2) TSM saves the data you need every time it runs a backup
>3) it is not impacted by hardware changes
>4) it doesn't cost anything
>5) it doesn't' require additional software to be installed on
>the client
>
>BUT, if you are planning to use it in an offsite DR situation,
>you have the problem that Microsoft doesn't
>restoring the System Object from one machine to another.
>Full instructions for use are in the TSM client manual.
>
>Christie BMR may be better depending on your circumstances
>1) you have to walk through a process of saving the system
>config to TSM or a floppy BEFORE you need it
>2) it's another piece of software to be licensed, installed and
>configured on all your clients
>3) extra cost
>
>BUT, it's the onlye thing I know of that SUPPORTS a bare-metal
>restore from one Windows machine to the other.
>Could vastly simplify your offsite recovery at a DR site.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
>Stapleton, Mark
>Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:04 PM
>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>Subject: Re: Windows server imaging
>
>
>I wouldn't bother spending the money. You can rebuild a Windows TSM
>client with just TSM in three majorly different ways, depending upon
>your circumstances, and a myriad of methods within each way.
>
>--
>Mark Stapleton (stapleton AT berbee DOT com)
>IBM Certified Advanced Deployment Professional
>Tivoli Storage Management Solutions 2005
>IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert (CATE) AIX
>Office 262.521.5627
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On
>>Behalf Of Terry McColgan
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 12:14 PM
>>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>>Subject: Re: Windows server imaging
>>
>>Christie BMR - t
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Richard Mochnaczewski
>>[mailto:Richard.Mochnaczewski AT STANDARDLIFE DOT CA]
>>Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:40 AM
>>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>>Subject: Windows server imaging
>>
>>
>>Hi Everybody,
>>
>>I've been reading up on the various image/restore methods for Windows
>>servers . What do users favour ?
>>
>>Rich
>>
>
>
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