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Re: weird request

2005-05-21 10:06:51
Subject: Re: weird request
From: TSM_User <tsm_user AT YAHOO DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 07:06:50 -0700
First let me say I really agree with Andrew.

That being said, I believe "robocopy 2003" has the ability to copy data based 
on last modified and last accessed dates.  You can do either or both I believe. 
 In order to accomplish what this customer wants you could first copy the stuff 
out using that feature, delete all the data and then copy it back.  This is of 
course extremely risky so I would back it up first which would seem to negate 
the whole process.  However, if your nice you could back the data up 
temporarily to a new node name of filespace and then if everything works after 
the delete and the copy back you could purge the data from TSM by deleting the 
node or filespace.

Anyway, I've seen a similar request when moving data to new hardware.  I've had 
a  few customers clean house this way.  Still, in all those cases they said 
"back it up first" so if we need it we can get it.

Andrew Raibeck <storman AT US.IBM DOT COM> wrote:
There is no filtering option in TSM to do this.

Using the age of a file to determine whether to back it up is, in my own
opinion, ill-advised. If the customer does not care to back up these
files, then why not simply "cut to the chase" and delete them? After all,
if the disk were to be lost tomorrow, they wouldn't be recoverable. If the
customer balks at the idea of deleting them outright, then that would
suggest a re-think of the backup strategy (what would the customer's
reaction be if someone actually did this?) The good news is that if the
files don't change, TSM's incremental approach will only back them up once
(okay, twice if you back up your storage pools, which is recommended).

Of course, some of these files are probably junk or temporary files that
are no longer needed, in which case it might be worthwhile to comb through
those files and clean up the truly unneeded ones.

Just my own thoughts on the subject. :-)

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com

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"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 2005-05-20
10:30:47:

> Hi All,
>
> I received a weird request from potential customer. Because we will
> charge him per space occupied on our server, he wants to backup only
> files less than a year old. He doesn't want to go into each folder and
> try to find files that meet the criteria. I know that Arcserve has that
> filter option.
>
> I don't think that we can do it with TSM, but before give him an answer
> I thought I would check opinion of The List.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
> Joe Crnjanski
> Infinity Network Solutions Inc.
> Phone: 416-235-0931 x26
> Fax: 416-235-0265
> Web: www.infinitynetwork.com
>


                
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