Hi Flemming,
I am truly sorry that you are disappointed with my response on this
subject. You might consider pursuing this issue with your IBM marketing or
account representatives if it is a strong concern. But just to be clear:
you *are* fully supported -- with the 5.2 client, even with a 5.3 server.
While end-of-service for version 5.2 has not yet been announced, I expect
5.2 to remain in support through 2006, and probably well into 2007 (though
I can not make formal commitments to that since I don't set end-of-service
policy; this is my own current estimate). Just to put it in perspective,
this means that we will be supporting NetWare 6.0 (with the 5.2 client)
well beyond Novell's own end-of-life for NetWare 6.0.
Best regards,
Andy
Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU> wrote on 2005-01-27
05:35:56:
> Hmmmmmm.... I'm sorry to say it - but I'm a bit disappointed!
>
> There are a lot of NetWare 6.0 installations out there - and to be
> honest, there are for most part not much reason to upgrade it for
> the time being... unless we want our backupsystem to support our NOS
> in future releases :o)
>
> The statement from IBM disappoint me... especially seen in the
> light, that IBM states to be cooperating closer with Novell now than
> ever before! - but one can only guess if this is only regarding the
> Linux product??
>
> Regarding NetWare 6.0 & 6.5 there's a major difference in the
> filesystem - NetWare 6.5 is running a newer version of NSS, which
> will not be incorporated in NetWare 6.0 (on this newer version you
> can among other things use TTS, which allow us to use NSS on SYS:)!
>
> Finally - this is not an attempt to start a discussion over a lost
> case... but merely an expression of oppinion
>
> Best regards
> Flemming
>
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]På vegne af
> Troy Frank
> Sendt: 17. januar 2005 21:04
> Til: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Emne: Re: SV: V5.3 client and Netware 6.0
>
>
> TSA600 isn't supported anymore on NW6, and it's never been supported
> on NW6.5, so you run it at your own risk now. You are correct that
> there was never a TSA650, they called it TSAFS instead. I've found
> it pretty safe to run the newest versions of TSAFS, you just have to
> be careful sometimes to set the cache memory allocation for it to be
> under 25%. There's several TID's about it on support.novell.com.
>
>
> Troy Frank
> Network Services
> University of Wisconsin Medical Foundation
> 608.829.5384
>
> >>> zforray AT VCU DOT EDU 1/17/2005 11:35:52 AM >>>
> I agree. There have been numerous discussions and recommendations to
avoid
> TSAFS and continue to use TSANDS/TSA600.
>
> Speaking of, AFAIK, the TSA modules for NW 6 and 6.5 are the same. I
don't
> recall seen a TSA650 ??
>
>
>
>
> Troy Frank < Troy.Frank AT UWMF.WISC DOT EDU >
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" < ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU >
> 01/17/2005 09:24 AM
> Please respond to
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" < ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU >
>
>
> To
> ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> cc
>
> Subject
> Re: SV: V5.3 client and Netware 6.0
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I could be wrong, but I always got the impression that more problems
> started with the NW6.5 TSAFS.
> They seem to be mostly ironed out now though.
>
>
> Troy Frank
> Network Services
> University of Wisconsin Medical Foundation
> 608.829.5384
>
> >>> mark.stapleton AT BERBEE DOT COM 1/16/2005 2:19:13 PM >>>
> >>>"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" < ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU > wrote:
> >>>> Does anyone know why Netware 6.0 is excluded from the list
> >>>> of "Software Requirements" for the V5.3 client ?
> >>>>
> >>>> After all, it includes 5.1.0:
> >>
> >>>> - Novell NetWare 5.10 and 6.50. These Novell NetWare server levels
> >>>> are required for Local and Remote TSM Operations.
> >>
> >>>> Anyone try it on NW 6.0 ?
>
> >>Fra: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]På
> >>vegne af Andrew Raibeck
> >>>NetWare 6.0 is not supported with the TSM 5.3 client.
>
> > FHG AT KMD DOT DK 1/14/2005 1:11:11 AM >>>
> >>How come? I mean... after all NetWare 6.0 is still fully
> >>supported by Novell!
>
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On
> Behalf Of Troy Frank
> >Netware 6 is scheduled for End of Life on 11/1/05. Since it's
> >still got almost a year left, I'm a little curious why it's
> >not supported also.
> > http://support.novell.com/lifecycle/forecast.html
>
> This reminds me of the situation about TSM client support for NetWare
5.0.
> Novell placed a very quick end-of-life to this version as well; those
who
> ever used it know why. As a result, TSM client versions 4 & 5 have never
> supported NW 5.0. The same situation may be true here; weren't there a
> pile of troubles with the versions of TSA that came with 6.0?
>
> --
> Mark Stapleton (stapleton AT berbee DOT com )
> Berbee Information Networks
> Office 262.521.5627
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