Same here.  The clopset editor is appalling.
We also store cloptsets in flat files and manage them via the command line.


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Schaub [mailto:Steve.Schaub AT HAWORTH DOT COM] 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 7:24 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: Simple Backup Copy Group Question


I totally agree with Salak.  I keep hoping new server releases will
incorporate a usable editor for client option sets.  It is so bad that I
have cobbled together a mainframe script that allows me to keep all of my
cloptset statements in files that I can edit there, then run a batch job
that goes through about 8 steps to put them in place on my TSM server (AIX -
and don't even bother talking to me about vi!).  I don't get what is so hard
about writing a java editor for these things 

Steve Schaub
Systems Engineer, Operations & Storage
Haworth, Inc
616-393-1457 (desk)
616-886-8821 (cell)
Steve.Schaub AT Haworth DOT com 

-----Original Message-----
From: Salak Juraj [mailto:j.salak AT ASAMER DOT AT] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 7:40 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: AW: AW: AW: AW: Simple Backup Copy Group Question


well, 
I am not satisfied with the clopstes editor at all.
Try using "" (having blanks in path  forces you to do so)
try to edit path in an existing inclexcl statement,
try to gain an overwiev of particulary complicated clopstes and/or inclexcl
statements in combination with local opt files and YES/NO parameters.

It works flawelessly but it is back-breaking work,
like editing text files with EDLIN.

Juraj


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Von: Farren Minns [mailto:fminns AT WILEY.CO DOT UK]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. März 2004 11:06
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Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: Simple Backup Copy Group Question


I think it's quite simple. I only ever really do exclude statements, and I
never have to use " " for those, so I assume it's the same for include
statements.

Just don't want to find out in two years time that we have files missing.

Farren


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>> I actually set up all include / exclude statements within the TSM 
>> server
itself

I see, the cloptset editing  interfacece is rather horrific,
it is quite tricky to use "" in cloptsets, isn´t it?

Juraj