ADSM-L

Re: Client/Server Expiration Problem

2004-02-12 11:05:49
Subject: Re: Client/Server Expiration Problem
From: Remco Post <r.post AT SARA DOT NL>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 17:05:21 +0100
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 09:03:19 -0700
Andrew Raibeck <storman AT US.IBM DOT COM> wrote:

> Gretchen, I don't understand the following:
>
> > Prior to the v4.2 client, you could simply exclude the files on the
> > client side and the files would be expired. This probably led to
> > unpleasant/unexpected results, so this doesn't work anymore and the
> > client expire was introduced.
>
> What unpleasant/unexpected results are you referring to? If no longer wish
> to back up files in c:\junk and it's subdirectories, then I don't see why
> using EXCLUDE.DIR wouldn't work. You could use a client options set to do
> this.
>

true, but the files remain on the server, and are not expired when using
exclude.dir....

> Regards,
>
> Andy
>
> Andy Raibeck
> IBM Software Group
> Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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> "Gretchen L. Thiele" <gretchen AT PRINCETON DOT EDU>
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> Client/Server Expiration Problem
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> Due to a change in policy (and limited storage), we're going to limit
> what we back up. The problem lies in how to 'expire' the files on the
> server without re-backing up the data, while maintaining deleted files
> for the duration of retonly. While we could rename the filespace and
> implement the new policy, this is a lot of administrative work and I
> don't think we would be able to accomodate the data (storage and
> bandwidth).
>
> Prior to the v4.2 client, you could simply exclude the files on the
> client side and the files would be expired. This probably led to
> unpleasant/unexpected results, so this doesn't work anymore and the
> client expire was introduced.
>
> THE PROBLEM: I need to expire subdirectories without explicitly
> naming them. The client expire command only expires the named
> subdirectory, ignoring any include/exclude statements in the config
> files and not accepting -subdir=yes on the command line. If I
> enter 'expire c:\junk\*', I expire all of the files in the junk
> directory, but none of the files in any subdirectories will be
> expired. Wildcards, such as c:\junk\...\*, aren't supported, and
> the -filelist option requires explicit filenames and/or directories.
>
> Since I need to run this from the server as a scheduled command and
> it's not feasible to get the precise list of subdirectories for each
> of 5,000 clients, I'm stumped. Am I missing something?
>
> Server is AIX 5.1, TSM 5.2.2.1 and the clients are Windows (Win9x,
> Win2K, WinXP) with TSM 5.x.x.x (will work on Unix nodes after these
> are done).
>
> Gretchen Thiele
> Princeton University


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