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Re: Backup doesn't confirm completion.

2003-12-10 14:59:26
Subject: Re: Backup doesn't confirm completion.
From: "Prather, Wanda" <Wanda.Prather AT JHUAPL DOT EDU>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:59:04 -0500
Hi Debi,

Well I'm glad you at least found the culprit.

You can expand the SYSTEM OBJECT and back up the pieces one at a time to
find which one is really hanging, but I'm not sure that will help you.

You can:
1) try to fix it with a new patch level (This is the first time I've heard
of this problem at a client level higher than 5.1.6.2).
2) report it to Tivoli as a bug and let them work on a solution, or
3) , a good solution is to exclude the system object from TSM's backup, and
set up an ntbackup of the system object to a flat file as a Windows
scheduled task.  TSM will then back up the flat file, and your're covered.
(Also saves wear and tear on your TSM DB).

We're using solution 3) on a bunch of our servers because the Windows client
backup of the system object is a perpetual problem.

Hope that helps
Wanda Prather
Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
443-778-8769

"Intelligence has much less practical application than you'd think" -
Dilbert/Scott Adams


-----Original Message-----
From: Debi Randolph [mailto:Debra.Randolph AT FBOL DOT COM]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 2:52 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: Backup doesn't confirm completion.


Your right Wanda, it is something with the system object.   I did a 'backup
systemobject' and it just sat there after the successful completion of the
backup of the RSM Database.  It's been 1 hour and it's still just sitting
there.     The active sessions are gone from the query session.   The
activity log is still putting out idle session timeout messages.

Guess I'll try to upgrade to a new version of TSM and see if that helps.

Thanks,
Deb






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Did you try manual backup of just the system object?

When I've seen that happen, it was always something in the backup of system
objects that was hanging it.
Only solution was to upgrade, but we are at 5.1.6.2 and running OK.

-----Original Message-----
From: Debi Randolph [mailto:Debra.Randolph AT FBOL DOT COM]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 2:25 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Backup doesn't confirm completion.


Anybody......


Windows 2003 Server, TSM Version 5.2.1.0

I have a  Windows 2000 Client running TSM version 5.1.6.7.
It backs up everything just fine but never reports the backup completed.

In the DSMsched.log, you see the last thing it backed up was 'Successful
incremental backup of RSM Database'.   Then nothing else, ever.
The backup does not report it's stats to the dsmsched.log, nor to the TSM
activity log.
The client never picks up it's schedule again and doesn't backup again,
until I bounce the TSM Scheduler service.
Then you can see the schedule in the log and the next night it backs up,
but just dies after 'Successful incremental backup of RSM Database'. again.

There are no errors in the dsmsched.log
There are no errors in the dsmerror.log

Q Sess - reports no active sessions for the client.

I've tried it in both polling and prompted mode, with the exact same
results.

I can manually backup the server without any issues.

Any ideas?


Deb Randolph
First Banks, Inc.
St. Louis, MO


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