In addition to my other comments...

The ANS1497W message hasn't always been in the product. It was added, oh,
I think in 5.1, maybe somewhere in 4.2 (I forget and am too lazy right now
to get the exact answer, sorry...). Earlier client levels ignored the
duplicate include/exclude patterns altogether.

The reason for adding this message wasn't to nag you about excluding your
pagefile.sys files twice; rather, it was to try and pro-actively catch
potential problems like this (which we have seen in customer
environments):

   exclude c:\myfiles\...\*
   include c:\myfiles\keep\...\*
   exclude c:\myfiles\...\*

or

   exclude c:\myfiles\keep\...\*
   include c:\myfiles\keep\...\*

or pick your own variant of questionable include/exclude lists...

While we can not possibly catch all questionable include/exclude
specifications (it is difficult to gauge intent: did you mean to include
or exclude everything in c:\myfiles\keep?), we thought that this was
something we *could* catch, since a duplicate include/exclude pattern
means that at least *one* of them is wrong (or extraneous).

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com

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The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




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OK. I'll bite.......

At what client level did you start automagically excluding OS components
??   Especially since the last book I checked (has been a while) for the
client had the suggested EXCLUDE statements in there.....

And why has this not been an issue in the past ?   I use the same CLOPTSET
for all of my Windows boxes !

Where can I get a list of what is automagically excluded so I can prune my
default CLOPTSET ?




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Note that TSM respects the entries in registry subkey
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\BackupRestore\FilesNotToBackup.

pagefile.sys should be in this list (unless removed manually or with some
other tool). So if you have an include/exclude list that has an exclude
for this file, that is probably why you are getting the message.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com

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The command line is your friend.
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I apologize for my ignorance since I am totally unaware of that command.
If I had known about it, I would have persued the issue using it.

I have asked the user to run the command (speaking of.....don't you
realize that most Windows folks don't know how to run non-gui processes
;-) and will check the results !

Thank you IBM for this new tool !





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>I am having the most bizzare time with a new 2K3 server and the latest
>client, V5.1.6.9  (still running 5.1 server so keeping 2K3 clients
>downlevel).
>
>A backup session reports numerous errors of the like:
>
>10/15/2003 15:22:34 ANS1497W Duplicate include/exclude option 'EXCLUDE
>*:\...\pagefile.sys' found while processing the client options passed by
>the server.
>This might produce unexpected results.
>
>I have double-checked the users DSM.OPT. It does not have any EXCLUDE
>statements.
>
>I have double-checked the CLOPTSET. I have been and are currently using
>this same CLOPTSET on numerous other servers without these errors.

No one wants to use 'dsmc q inclexcl'...  The developers went to all that
effort to provide a convenient way to verify client-server Include/Exclude
specifications in a "compiled" manner, and all for naught.   ;-0
Always do that instead of inspecting physicals, to see what the product
believes the composite really is.  Then you can pursue from that
standpoint
of validation.

  Richard Sims, BU