I'm sure the other academics have the same problem.  I refer to them as labtop
machines.  Huge, multiprocessor, single user machines, some with close to a Tb
of storage, only on the network long enough to do the daily backup.  But
charged at the highest rate.

Quoting "Coats, Jack" <Jack.Coats AT BANKSTERLING DOT COM>:

> I was just on the phone with TSM licensing folks, and my VAR.
>
> They (the TSM licensing geeks) defined a 'TSM Client'
> license as something we would put on a server (something that provides
> services
> to other computers or multiple concurrent users).
>
> A 'TSM Desktop' was defined as a computer that provides service only to one
> user that logs onto its console.  There is also the 'TSM Server', that runs
> the
> TSM server software, and typically is ALSO a 'TSM Client' (why does this
> makes me think of the 'Hairclub for Men' TV commercial?).
>
> Example 1: I have an internal customer that has a desktop PC.  This desktop
> computer
> is running Windows 2000 Professional (a desktop, not a server OS).  But
> since
> it has a modem, and other computers dial into it (just to upload/download
> files),
> it is considered a SERVER, NOT a DESKTOP, for licensing purposes.
>
> Example 2: But my Win98 desktop computer, that no one else uses locally or
> remotely, is
> a DESKTOP for licensing purposes.  Because it only serves the individual
> currently
> logged in at its console.
>
> Clear as mud? ... I thought so!
>
> Also, evidently there is just now forming a team to help with license
> conversions from 'old licenses'
> to 'new license' (i.e. old tier 1 windows client was allowed 1 to 4
> processors, and the new licenses
> are per processor).  It is my understanding that they will be 'adjusting'
> the inventory to show you have
> not just 4 processors per client, but the number of processors you are
> using
> per old client license.
>
> This was no official statement, just an indication from an IBM techie that
> does licensing and his
> current understanding of how it will work.
>
> So do an inventory of your equipment so you know what you are using.
>
> ... Enjoy.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick Boutilier [SMTP:boutilpj AT STAFF.EDNET.NS DOT CA]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 12:39 PM
> > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject:      Re: new TSM Client Pricing
> >
> > Depends on how you define client. Most people would define a client as
> > any computer that you backup to the TSM server.
> >
> > Tivoli defines a client as a desktop machine (Win98, etc..) and anything
> > else requires a server license to backup to the TSM server.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gable, Josh wrote:
> > > That is not true.  There is a price difference between a TSM server and
> > > client license.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Levinson, Donald A. [mailto:dlevinso AT ACSALASKA DOT COM]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 12:27 PM
> > > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > Subject: Re: new TSM Client Pricing
> > >
> > >
> > > And furthermore it doesn't matter whether it is running TSM server or
> > TSM
> > > client. it is still the same per-processor license. So for the same set
> > of
> > > machines there is no cost different between using them as TSM servers
> or
> > TSM
> > > clients.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David E Ehresman [mailto:deehre01 AT LOUISVILLE DOT EDU]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 9:23 AM
> > > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > Subject: Re: new TSM Client Pricing
> > >
> > >
> > > We were told yesterday that a processor is a processor.  That it
> doesn't
> > > matter whether the client runs on a desktop or a server, just how many
> > > processors are being used in the box.
> > >
> > >
> > >>>>kleinr AT EXCHANGE.NIH DOT GOV 05/13/03 01:10PM >>>
> > >
> > > I was speaking with our TSM sales rep earlier today about ordering TSM
> > > client software upgrades.  She said that as of this past January, a
> > > factor
> > > in the pricing of a client software license is whether or not the
> > > client is
> > > a server or a desktop and, if a server, how many cpus it has.  Has
> > > anyone
> > > else heard anything about this?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
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