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Re: Gigabit Ethernet speed

2002-12-30 10:42:59
Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet speed
From: "Dearman, Richard" <rdearm1 AT UIC DOT EDU>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 09:46:29 -0600
It could help but like I said most clients aren't tuned for optimum backup
performance.  Meaning the disk configuration strategy is't setup for optimum
reads and it cann't keep up with gig speeds.  If the client is a production
server then not only is it processing the backup, it has to do whatever it
was built for as well.  So you have two applications battling for resources
at the client.  The tsm server only has one thing going on an thats backups.
If you change resource utilization you could get some jump in throughput but
at the same time the other app running on that client will suffer.  Is it
really worth it? Maybe in your environment but thats your call.

-----Original Message-----
From: William Rosette [mailto:Bill_Rosette AT PAPAJOHNS DOT COM]
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:24 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet speed


What about upping the RESOURCEUTILIZATION?  Will this not increase through
put?

Thank You,
Bill Rosette
Data Center/IS/Papa Johns International
WWJD


 

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If you use Jumbo Frames at the client, tsm server and switches.  You will
see a higher through put with a lot less cpu utilization.  I my experience
the biggest problem with backup speed is the client is the bottle neck.
Either it cann't read from its disk fast enough to support gig speeds or
the
client cpu cann't process the data fast enough.  Usually with a P660 with
4x750's processors, and multiple HBA's connected to your SAN that tsm
server
won't be the problem.

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From: Antonio J Pires [mailto:antoniopires AT PT.IBM DOT COM]
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 5:43 AM
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Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet speed


Hi,

Can we use 2 or more gigabit interfaces to increase backup bandwidth?
Any experience on this approach?

Thanks in advance,
António Pires





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I agree.  However, to my knowledge that is either the default for the P660
offering or there is no way to set it.  We use hardware on our Windows
machines.  Even then, you have to process the packet queues and when moving
70MB/sec of 1500 byte packets, it takes some resources.

Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon Inc.
757-688-8180


-----Original Message-----
From: Rushforth, Tim [mailto:TRushfor AT CITY.WINNIPEG.MB DOT CA]
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 8:27 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet speed


Consider using NIC's with TCP Offload Engines (TOE'S)- this should help
with
CPU utilization.

-----Original Message-----
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:seay_pd AT NAPTHEON DOT COM]
Sent: December 27, 2002 2:53 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet speed

For some reason we forget that IP packet processing on the client and
server
take a lot of CPU resources.  Check your CPU utilization on both to see
what
is happening.  My experience is a 450mhz x 4 P660 can process maximum of
about 70000 kb/sec.  When we had only one gigabit interface that is what it
ran at and also with 2 gigabit interfaces in total.  In both cases the CPU
goes to 100 percent and no more packets can be processed.

It can also be a client issue if they do not have enough CPU to push the
data to the server.

This is the place LANFREE comes into play.

Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon Inc.
757-688-8180


-----Original Message-----
From: Conko, Steven [mailto:sconko AT ADT DOT COM]
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 9:44 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Gigabit Ethernet speed


anybody have any tips on what type of "Network transfer rate" we should be
seeing for our backups over gigabit ethernet? the clients backup via copper
Gb ethernet dedicated for backups to a tsm server connected to a 3494 tape
library with 10 3590 tape drives via fibre channel/brocade switch.

there is only one client on one gigabit interface and 3 on another.

any tips for improving network performance?

thanks

Steven A. Conko
Senior Unix Systems Administrator
ADT Security Services, Inc.


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