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Re: delete filespace

2002-12-11 08:12:59
Subject: Re: delete filespace
From: Andrew Raibeck <storman AT US.IBM DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 06:10:54 -0700
>From the DELETE FILESPACE information in the Admin Reference:

"Use this command to delete file spaces from the server. Files that belong
to the file space are deleted from primary and copy storage pools."

This is not the same as just flagging them as expired; they are actually
deleted.

So your explanation is pretty much correct. The only thing I would add is
that inventory expiration is not only for files that have been expired by
the client, but also for versions that exceed the version and retention
settings in your policy domains.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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"Robert L. Rippy" <robert_rippy AT KINDREDHEALTHCARE DOT COM>
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12/11/2002 05:48
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You are correct on how expiration works, but Michelle is talking about a
manual delete or deletion of filespaces. WHen you delete a filespace as
Michelle has done the data is removed immediately and expire inventory
isn't necessary. I don't think its a matter how long I have been doing
TSM,
yet a matter that I understand TSM and how it works. But I have been doing
TSM for 3 years currently. Please, try this with a test node and see what
happens. Expiration is there for files that are expired by the client. The
client marks files as expired in the database, then when you run
expiration, it deletes the files that have been marked for expirarion from
the database. If you delete a filespace you are telling TSM that you know
you want them gone and they are deleted immediately.

How long have you been working with TSM?

Would anyone like to make a comment on this and help Tony Trinh understand
better how TSM functions?

Thanks,
Robert Rippy




From: "Trinh, Tony" <tony.trinh AT intel DOT com> on 12/10/2002 05:49 PM

To:   Robert Rippy/CT/Mail@KindredHealthCare, adsmigmo AT YAHOO DOT COM
cc:
Subject:  RE: delete filespace

Robert,

May I asked how long have you been working with TSM? You are wrong about
the
data get deleted after deleting the filespace. Why do you think there's a
process in place called expiration? This process is in place is to expired
old data of previous version of backup or deleted filespace.

Regards,
Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:robert_rippy AT KINDREDHEALTHCARE DOT COM]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:15 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: delete filespace

They are done immediately. Expire Inventory isn't necessary.

Thanks,
Robert Rippy





From: Michelle DeVault <adsmigmo AT YAHOO DOT COM> on 12/10/2002 03:59 PM

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Subject:  delete filespace

After doing a delete filespace, when do the deleted
files get removed from the storage pools?  After an
expire inventory?

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