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Re: 3494 Utilization, and other Reporting Concerns

2002-09-09 11:12:22
Subject: Re: 3494 Utilization, and other Reporting Concerns
From: "Mr. Lindsay Morris" <lmorris AT SERVERGRAPH DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:11:28 -0400
Some people on the list DO object to vendor self-interested posts - so there
is an advertising-related place at www.adsm.org. Refresh it a few times (5?)
and you should see all the banner ads.

It's a dilemma for us, certainly - we're big fans of TSM, and want to
support the TSM community with our reporting product.  But NOBODY wants to
see this excellent list degenerate into nothing-but-ads.

So we sometimes offer tips that we've learned while building Servergraph/TSM
(like, the summary table is unreliable and not real-time), but try to avoid
blatant self-promotion.  If we see that other vendors ARE using the list
inappropriately... well, we just hope people will do enough research to find
the products that work best.

---------------------------------
Mr. Lindsay Morris
CEO, Servergraph
www.servergraph.com
859-253-8000 ofc
425-988-8478 fax


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf Of
> Richard Cowen
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:52 AM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: 3494 Utilization, and other Reporting Concerns
>
>
> If the List doesn't mind occasional vendor self-interested posts, I would
> like to offer one for CNT's TSM Reporting Service.  This is just
> one aspect
> of a more encompassing offering of TSM consulting and implementation
> services, but it may be germane to this thread.  If we get a volunteer
> reviewer, I would be happy to send sample HTML's....
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mr. Lindsay Morris [mailto:lmorris AT servergraph DOT com]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:45 AM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: 3494 Utilization
>
>
> TSMManager doesn't do predictions of when you're going to run out
> of space.
> Servergraph/TSM is better for serious capacity planning.
>
> Should some impartial third party review the various TSM
> monitoring products
> and send the list a write-up?
> Paul Seay? Dwight Cook? Wanda Prather? Somebody?
>
> We, of course, have detailed feature-by-feature comparisons, but can't
> really claim to be impartial  ;-}
> ---------------------------------
> Mr. Lindsay Morris
> CEO, Servergraph
> www.servergraph.com
> 859-253-8000 ofc
> 425-988-8478 fax
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf 
> > Of
> > Cahill, Ricky
> > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:01 AM
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: 3494 Utilization
> >
> >
> > Take a look at www.tsmmanager.com this will do exactly what you
> > want and in
> > a graphical format, you can download it and use the evaluation
> license to
> > get the info you need. To be honest after now using this for a couple of
> > months I can't see how anyone could do without it. It's
> especially good at
> > doing nice pretty reports for the management to get them off
> your back and
> > give them more paper to pass around in meetings ;)
> >
> >        .............Rikk
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:xjolliff AT TI DOT COM]
> > Sent: 09 September 2002 13:44
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: 3494 Utilization
> >
> >
> > In the long run, we are attempting to quantify exactly how "busy" our
> > ATLs/drives are over time for a number of reasons -- capacity planning,
> > adjusting schedules to better utilize resources, and possibly
> even justify
> > the purchase of new tape drives.
> >
> > At this point I have been asked to simply come up with a
> minutes or hours
> > per 24 hour period any particular drive is in use.
> >
> > A "query mount" every minute might work, but it just isn't a
> good solution
> > for two reasons -- for clients writing directly to tape, the
> mounted tape
> > won't show up in "query mount", and most of these servers
> already have an
> > extensive number of scripts accessing them periodically for various
> > monitoring and reporting functions - I hesitate to add any more to them.
> >
> > My last resort is going to be to extract the activity log once every 24
> > hours and examine the logs and match the mount/dismounts by drive and
> > attempt to calculate usage that way if there isn't something
> better.  With
> > the difficulty in matching mounts to dismounts, I'm not
> entirely convinced
> > it's worth the trouble.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mr. Lindsay Morris [mailto:lmorris AT servergraph DOT com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:55 PM
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: 3494 Utilization
> >
> >
> > If you use the atape device driver, you (supposedly) can turn on logging
> > within it.  Then every dismount writes a record of how many bytes were
> > read/written during that mount.
> > Never tried it ... if you can get it working, let me know how,
> > please! We'd
> > love to be able to do that.
> >
> > Right now we CAN show you library-as-a-whole data rates, just
> by layering
> > all the tape-drive-writing tasks (migration, backup stgpool,
> > backup DB, etc)
> > one atop the other minute by minute.  Maybe that's enough - why
> > do you need
> > drive-by-drive data rates?
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Mr. Lindsay Morris
> > CEO, Servergraph
> > www.servergraph.com
> > 859-253-8000 ofc
> > 425-988-8478 fax
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On
> Behalf Of
> > > Jolliff, Dale
> > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:16 PM
> > > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > Subject: Re: 3494 Utilization
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul said that Servergraph has this functionality - According to our
> > > hardware guys, the 3494 library has some rudimentary mount statistics
> > > available.
> > >
> > > I'm going to be looking into both of those options.
> > >
> > > Surely someone has already invented this wheel when trying to
> > justify more
> > > tape drives - other than pointing to the smoke coming from the
> > drives and
> > > suggesting that they are slightly overused....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Cook, Dwight E [mailto:DWIGHT.E.COOK AT SAIC DOT COM]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:45 AM
> > > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > Subject: Re: 3494 Utilization
> > >
> > >
> > > Good question, never actually thought about it...
> > > I would think that the sum of the difference between mount &
> > > dismount times
> > > for each drive...
> > > OH THANKS..... now I won't be able to sleep until I code some select
> > > statement to do this :-(
> > > if I figure it out, I'll pass it along
> > >
> > > Dwight
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:xjolliff AT TI DOT COM]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:04 AM
> > > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > Subject: 3494 Utilization
> > >
> > >
> > > I saw this topic out on ADSM, and I could not locate any type of
> > > functional
> > > resolution ...
> > >
> > > What is everyone using to calculate the "wall time" of your tape drive
> > > utilization?
> > >
> >
> >
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