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Re: Extend Archive retention period

2002-08-08 05:47:22
Subject: Re: Extend Archive retention period
From: "Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM" <Eric-van.Loon AT KLM DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:46:44 +0200
Hi Reinhard!
I stand correct... There is no rebinding when you update a
managementclass/copygroup.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines

-----Original Message-----
From: Reinhard Mersch [mailto:mersch AT UNI-MUENSTER DOT DE]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 08:55
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: Extend Archive retention period


Hi Eric,

what do you mean by "rebound"? Backups may be "rebound" to a different
mgmclass, e.g. by specifying a new one in the inclexcl list. You are right:
This does not happen for archives, but nevertheless: If the mgmclass an
existing archive is bound to is changed, this change also applies to that
existing archive.

Let's do the test I spoke of (4.2.2.0 server on AIX 4.3.3, 4.2.2.0 client
on Linux, copy group "test" retains for 30 days):

client> dsmc ar -archmc=test archive-test
client> dsmc q ar archive-test
...
             Size  Archive Date - Time    File - Expires on - Description
             ----  -------------------    -------------------------------
              733  08.08.2002 08:35:28    /home/mersch/tmp/archive-test
07.09.2002 Archive Date: 08.08.2002
...

server> upd co ba std test t=a retv=400
server> activate pol ba std

client> dsmc q ar archive-test
...
             Size  Archive Date - Time    File - Expires on - Description
             ----  -------------------    -------------------------------
              733  08.08.2002 08:35:28    /home/mersch/tmp/archive-test
12.09.2003 Archive Date: 08.08.2002


See the change in the "Expires on" field? 07.09.2002 (07-Sep-2002) to
12.09.2003 (12-Sep-2003)!

So, now you ...

"Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM" <Eric-van.Loon AT KLM DOT COM> schrieb:
> Hi Reinhard!
> As a matter of fact: NO!
> Backups are rebound to the new backup copygroup/managementclass (and thus
> retention) archives will NOT be rebound. So updating an archive copygroup
> will NOT work for already existing archives.
> Kindest regards,
> Eric van Loon
> KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reinhard Mersch [mailto:mersch AT UNI-MUENSTER DOT DE]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 09:12
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: Extend Archive retention period


> For a definite answer, you will need a developer, but to the best of
> my knowledge, an object's DB entry does not contain the object's
> expiration date. It contains the management class ID it is associated to,
> and during inventory expiration the decision is based on the archive
file's
> creation date and the current management class settings. So, yes: changing
> the management class / copy group parameters applies to all existing
archive
> files belonging to that management class (same for backups). This applies
> to all *SM versions.

> You can easily test it: the command line client shows the expiration date
> of archive files. So issue a "query archive", change the management class,
> and issue a "query archive" again. The expiration date should have
> changed.

> Don't forget to activate the policy set.

> "Lai, Kathy KL" <Kathy.KL.Lai AT PCCW DOT COM> schrieb:
> > Dear all,

> > I am using ADSM v3.1.2.57 for backup. I am now have a questiong about
> > whether I can extend the retention period of an archived file. I have
> create
> > a archive type copy group and a management class with certain retention
> > period which is not the default management class (say 7days). Then I use
> > this management class and copy group to archive a file. My question is
> > whether I can change the retention of that file already archived by
> changing
> > the retention period of the management class? By change the retention
> period
> > of the management class, will it effective to both file already archived
> and
> > new archive file after the change or just effective to file archive
after
> > the change? If I can change the retention period of an archived file by
> > change the retver of the management class, does it mean that I have to
> > retrieve the file and then re-archive it for a longer retention?

> > Please urgently reply me the question as I am using this method to
backup
> > the DB archive. User now request to hold a certain online backup image
of
> a
> > DB. Now I can only hold the expiration job for the backup image only but
> not
> > the DB archive. Thank you very much.


> > > Regards,
> > > Kathy Lai
> > >

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