Re: What qualifies as an in use license?

If this is correct, how can it come that if you register a file backup client, and one TDP client nodename on the TSM, and then backup the different nodenames from the same machine, you get 2 Managed systems for LAN in use?

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Yes, the TSM licensing is anything but clear. I can't speak to the client
expiration issue, but I've looked very hard into the licensing aspects.
Here's a bit of what it says in the announcement letter for the USA
value-based program:
(http://www2.ibmlink.ibm.com/cgi-bin/master?xh=JCvY43nNwaCFgG1USenGnN9332&request=announcements&parms=H%5f200%2d245&xhi=announcements%5e&xfr=Nhttp://www2.ibmlink.ibm.com/cgi-bin/master?xh=JCvY43nNwaCFgG1USenGnN9332&request=announcements&parms=H%5f200%2d245&xhi=announcements%5e&xfr=N)

* One MANAGED SYSTEM FOR LAN feature is required for each managed system
that will move data to and from storage over a LAN.

* One MANAGED SYSTEM FOR SAN feature is required for each managed system
that will move data to and from storage over a SAN.

* A managed system that moves data to and from storage, both on a LAN and
on a SAN, requires only the Managed System for SAN feature.

I have verified with Tivoli that a managed system is a single hardware
platform regardless of how many nodes TSM has defined for the box. So you
need either a MGSYSLAN or a MGSYSSAN license for every physical machine
that will be sending data. Not for each node registered to TSM.
Essentially this means that the license feature built into TSM is useless
for actually managing your license usage.

The TDPs only require their own specific licenses, even if they generate
extra nodes. Their data movement is covered by the MGSYSLAN license (or
MGSYSSAN if LANFree is required).

This may be different in other parts of the world, but don't trust your
reseller to get it right, call Tivoli directly to verify your
configuration.

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Hi

There seems to be a lot of confusion about licensing in TSM.

According to Wanda Prather, license for each client expires 30 days after
the clients last connection.

According to some other, clients not in use don't require a client license.

I've been looking in to this, and according to the License Agreement, each
registred client need and "Tivoli Storage Manager Managed Systems for LAN"
client. This means that each file client needs a license, each TDP need a
client, and according to internal sources on Tivoli, each Managed Systems
for SAN require a Managed systems for LAN. Special requirements have been
issued from Tivoli concering the use of Gresham EDT concerning licensing.

My suggestion is to here with your local Tivoli sales/dealer on how to
use/agree the licensing terms.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman

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It was my understanding that a "defined" client on the server would fall
from the "in-use" number after 30 days. IE, 30 days of inactivity and the
in-use count decrements.

Tom Melton
Emory HealthCare

>>> daniel.sparrman AT EXIST DOT SE 01/15/02 10:44AM >>>
Hi

Yes, every node registred on the server counts as one client license.

Also, if you use separate nodenames for Tivoli Data Protection clients,
everyone will count as 1 Managed System LAN.

I'm not sure, but I also think that every Managed System SAN counts as one
managed systems lan also.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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I'm in the midst of doing a cleanup job on our TSM servers. When I do a 'q
license', one of the results is:

Number of Managed System for LAN in use: 107

My question is, what counts as 'in use'? For example, there are a bunch of
nodes that are defined and are no longer used or associated with any
schedules. Do these count as 'in use', and if so, should I export the node
out of the db and delete it to get the license counts down? One other
question: anyone got a query to figure out which nodes are NOT associated
with a schedule. This would help me identify nodes that are candidates for
export.

Many thanks,
Dylan