4.2.0.0 client :   AIX 4.2.0.0 will  NOT work to 3.1.2.90 ADSM server.
Problem with authentication of password.

                        HP 4.2.0.0 will work to 3.1.2.90 (and 3.1.2.50)

        The server is AIX 4.3.3

3.1.0.7 client HP, NCR, IBM also work to 4.1 Servers (just in case you
wondered)

Jeff Bach
Home Office Open Systems Engineering
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.

WAL-MART CONFIDENTIAL


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Wayne T. Smith [SMTP:ADSM AT MAINE DOT EDU]
        Sent:   Friday, October 05, 2001 4:27 PM
        To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
        Subject:        Re: VM TSM server, just some thoughts...

        Dwight wrote, in part..
        > The new IBM Z series processors are being pushed as consolidation
        > servers.
        >         rum VM with a whole bunch of virtual LINUX servers...
        >
        > The only TSM server for VM is functionally at 3.1.2
        > VM LINUX client is at 4.2  ( I don't know if 4.2 clients would
talk to
        > 3.1.2 server ?)

        They can, but at 3.1.2 server capability.  That is, no backupsets,
no
        image backups, no adaptive differencing, no system objects, no
respect.

        > I do see there is an OS/390 TSM 4.2 server
        >
        > Would a person have to run MVS under VM in order to have a TSM 4.2
        > server running in this sort of environment ????????

        A foolish IBM salesman, if there were one, would salivate over this
        one.

        > maybe I need to get with my Tivoli sales folks to find out what is
to be
        > available down the road
        >         maybe I just haven't looked in the right place yet...

        Maybe Tivoli has yet to find or accept the existence a market for
S/390
        and zSeries.  Without exception, Tivoli personnel (I've listened to)
        have either avoided the subject or said the direction is to have no
        S/390 wrt TSM.

        > anyone have any thoughts on any of this ?????? :-)

        Next to not playing, the worst thing an athlete can have is
indecision.

        I think that Tivoli has had indecision wrt S/390 servers for a long
        time. They (or IBM) drove customers away with indecision when
customers
        were using ADSM V1 (few had migrated to a "weak" ADSM V2).
Customers
        were unable to get long-term commitment for a VM backup server, but
a
        "Tivoli ADSM" V3 server was produced.  Unfortunately, it was late
...
        very late ... and many customers chose other solutions. The V3
product
        was a very good upgrade, but the indecision on providing the V3
product
        and continuing reluctance of Tivoli wrt S/390 sent more customers
away.

        In a financial climate where earnings of 20% per year were expected,
        one might "understand" (what I believe was shortsighted).  Now a new
        market is opening for S/390s and zSeries, but the critical backup
piece
        is not available (there is now a Linux client, but not yet a
server).

        Whereas a Linux server might be provided one day, will it be treated
as
        the VM backup server was?

        Just as Dwight (perhaps) suggested it would be foolhardy to obtain
zOS
        for a TSM server, I think over the years Tivoli may have wondered if
        people would obtain VM systems to license their VM server (customers
        won't do that).  But are there existing and new VM systems to make a
        TSM VM server a viable product?   I used to think so, but I'm no
        product manager and know neither the economics nor the company
politics
        of the venture.

        It seems so long ago that IBM/Tivoli were bragging about how easy it
        was to port the mostly platform-independent *SM server. :-(

        cheers, wayne


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