Hi Nick,
You make a good point about installing the services via the setup program,
and in principle I would tend to agree. But in order to install the
services, you would need to know several items in advance, such as the
desired node name, password, client options file(s) (which would require an
additional "wizard" to create and configure), Windows account under which
to run the services, etc. Then there are the cases where you want/need more
than one of each kind of service.
These issues are (arguably) beyond the scope of what we want to accomplish
in the software install program, at least not without a high degree of
customization, and so we left it as an additional item to be performed
after the setup program completes.
Not to make it too difficult, we did implement a setup wizard for
configuring the scheduler and web client services (and the journal engine
in 4.2). If dsm.opt does not exist, then when you start the GUI, it will
invoke the TSM Setup Wizard, from which you can configure any of the basic
sdervices (plus the Journal engine in 4.2). If dsm.opt does exist and you
want to use the wizard to configure the services, just choose "Setup
Wizard" from the "Utilities" menu in the GUI. For advanced service
configuration capability, you can use dsmcutil.exe.
Regards,
Andy
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IBM Tivoli Systems
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Andy,
Thanks for the info. I think that you are on to something, if you specify
the difference then you won't get silly questions from someone like me. I
see your point with the doc and now that you explain it that way I feel
silly.
Just as an after thought would it be helpful to include the service
configuration as part of the install? The installation is really useless
until all or select services are configured on the client.
It is helpful for someone like me who is not NT literate (I support the
TSM server on OS/390) but still gets involved with client concerns.
Let me know what you think, and thanks again.
- Brian
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OK, now I see... well, yes, technically it is correct, in that the client
acceptor and remote client agent executables are indeed installed on the
system. It's the *configuration* of the associated services (a.k.a.
"installing the services") that is not performed at software install time.
The client scheduler is similar: we install the software you need to run
the client scheduler, but you still need to configure the associated
scheduler service.
Just the same, perhaps it would help if, in the future, we mentioned the
distinction between installing the software vs. configuring the sevices to
run the software.
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Andy
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Andy,
Thanks for the reply. This might be confusion on my part as the read-me
talks about the Web Client which I relate to the Client Acceptor and the
Remote Client Agent,here is the entry that I am talking about:
Installing the Client
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* Please NOTE: The install dialogs are all new and different from t *
Please NOTE: The install dialogs are all new and different from the
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* previous Version 3 Tivoli Storage Manager product. The 3rd dialog
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* on the new install path is Setup Type. There are 2 choices,
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* Complete (comparable to the old Typical) and Custom. Complete
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* installs the Backup-Archive client, the Web client, and the Online
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* documentation.
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* - The Tivoli Storage Manager Administrator command line client is NOT
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* a part of the Complete install.
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* - There is not a response file install as there was in TSM Version 3.
*
Please let me know if this is something that I am missing.
- Brian
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Hi,
I just took a (admittedly quick) look at the README file, but could not
find it in the 4.1.2.12 README. I know it was in there at one time, but it
should have been since removed. If you can point me to the text, I can look
to have it removed from subsequent READMEs.
Thanks,
Andy
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Sure we can do that but the readme for this client indicates that these
services will be installed automatically, or did I misinterpret this?
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