Well Jerry... Yes 'no limit' applies to the only copy too (we were young and
stupid)
Mecki... these files are still within the service level agreement, so I
cannot just delete the fs.  Space is an issue so I would rather have them
start expiring (2 - 5 G pre day) than just to sit for the next 6 months.
David... I want to rebind backed up files (their fs or any copies exists on
the client) to a new management class so they can expire via the rules of
the new MC.
Thanks for all the responses.
MV


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Irvine, David (ANFIS) [SMTP:dirvi1 AT ANFIS.CO DOT UK]
        Sent:   Friday, November 19, 1999 4:32 AM
        To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
        Subject:        Re: rebinding

        Nice question first thing on a Friday Morning . . .

        If I understand you correctly, you wish to find files in the new
File
        Structure that
        have a No Limit retention ?
        As long as you haven't rebound your new file structure, could you
possible
        use
        an SQL select statement on the Backups table - this will give you a
list of
        files for that
        particular node and the management class that each was bound to . .
.

        could be an extremely long list though depending on how many files
you have.
        You could then use this list to rebind those files that are No Limit
into an
        MC that
        will expire them.

        David Irvine
        Technical Specialist, IT Services
        Abbey National Financial and Investment Services plc
        Abbey National House 287 St Vincent Street Glasgow G2 5NB
        Registered in Scotland No 159852

        EMail: dirvi1 AT anfis.co DOT uk
        Tel : +44 (0)141-275-7731
        Fax : +44 (0)141-275-9199

        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: Kelly J. Lipp [SMTP:lipp AT STORSOL DOT COM]
        > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 4:39 PM
        > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
        > Subject:      Re: rebinding
        >
        > The question is even more interesting than you think!
        >
        > What about files that were active at the time of the last backup?
These
        > files are never going to expire!  Inactive files will continue to
be
        > governed by the appropriate management class and will disappear
sooner or
        > later.
        >
        > That's my first thoughts.  Again, the brain is slightly faster
than the
        > fingers...
        >
        > If a filespace is there one day and gone to Maui the next, and an
        > incremental runs, I would think that perhaps all of the files in
the gonzo
        > filespace would be marked inactive.  Is that really true?  If the
file
        > system doesn't know about the filespace, would ADSM know to try to
inc it?
        > Would the deleted file pass happen against the removed filespace?
Geez,
        > now
        > I'm confused.
        >
        > Kelly J. Lipp
        > Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
        > PO Box 51313
        > Colorado Springs CO 80949
        > 719-531-5926
        > www.storsol.com
        > lipp AT storsol DOT com
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On
Behalf Of
        > Vraspir, Mary J.
        > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 9:35 AM
        > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
        > Subject: rebinding
        >
        >
        > How can I rebind files to a new management class when the original
file
        > structure no longer exists?
        > I want to expire back up files that are currently 'No Limit'
retention.
        > The
        > client has been revamped and the original FS doesn't exist so I
cannot use
        > a
        > DIRMC and back up again.?
        >
        > Thanks in advance.
        > MV